# Assemble your SNL nightmare cast!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 7, 2005, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313 "2005-03-07T04:47:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/21 "2005-03-08T15:24:17Z")

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> [@Max Torque](#):
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> Charles Rocket  
> Nora Dunn  
> Pamela Stephenson  
> Horatio Sanz  
> Terry Sweeney  
> Joan Cusack  
> Rachel Dratch  
> Colin Quinn  
> Victoria Jackson  
> Kevin Nealon

I was going to put up _my_ list, but I’m afraid that **Max Torque** has already posted mine.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/22 "2005-03-08T16:16:45Z")

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Robin Duke  
Tony Rosato  
Mary Gross  
Terry Sweeney  
Ann Risley  
Brad Hall  
Chris Kattan  
Rob Schneider

Weekend Update anchor: Brian Doyle-Murray

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/23 "2005-03-08T17:18:12Z")

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1. Joe Piscopo.  
2-9. Clones of Joe Piscopo.

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**Author:** ![LindyHopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@LindyHopper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LindyHopper)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/24 "2005-03-08T17:30:06Z")

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Chris Kattan  
Will Ferrell  
Cheri Oteri  
Chris Farley  
Chris Elliott

Actually, that’s all I can think of that I actually _hate_. If I rounded out the list with people who were fairly consistently annoying:

Kevin Nealon  
Rob Schneider  
Julia Sweeney, but only for the “It’s Pat” sketches. Jeebus, they were stupid.  
Rachel Dratch

Huh. Somehow, I thought it would be _way_ easier than that.

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**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/25 "2005-03-08T18:30:32Z")

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> [@Sauron](#):
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> I’m almost positive that was Norm McDonald.

Nope, it was Charlie Rocket, around 1983.

I don’t get the Garrett Morris antipathy, either. He is a talented guy, studied at Julliard, and just didn’t get any good roles to play (aside from the “shotgun/whitey” song and “Garrett Morris, headmaster of the New York School for the Hard of Hearing.”).

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/26 "2005-03-08T19:08:02Z")

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Going for genuinely annoying instead of just so bland as to be forgettable: (emphasis added for those who get _ **extra HAAATE** _)

1. _ **Adam Sandler** _
2. Horatio Sanz
3. Robin Duke
4. Terry Sweeney
5. _ **David Spade** _
6. Joe Piscopo
7. Christine Ebersole
8. _ **Chris Kattan** _
9. Charles Rocket

Weekend Update hosted by Colin Quinn and Dennis Miller.

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**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/27 "2005-03-08T19:40:12Z")

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> [@plnnr](#):
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> Nope, it was Charlie Rocket, around 1983.

Okay, so what did Norm McDonald do to get in the doghouse? Didn’t he get kicked off the show? I thought it was for swearing during a “Weekend Update” segment.

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/28 "2005-03-08T19:41:23Z")

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Whoa, I can’t believe I missed two from the OP: Gilbert Gottfried and Denny Dillon. They’d be featured players in constant rotation, yelling in the background of every sketch.

Jim Belushi would also be always present to provide bland yet annoying Tom Arnold-ness.

The musical guests wouldn’t change, but instead use Smashmouth as the house band. The Scissor Sisters would frequently drop in and jam.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/29 "2005-03-08T20:03:35Z")

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> [@plnnr](#):
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> Nope, it was Charlie Rocket, around 1983.

1980 or 1981, as he was part of _that cast_. Charlene Tilton was hosting, and a running gag through the show was a “Who shot JR?” parody, “who shot Charles Rocket?” At the end of the show there was some time to fill so Tilton vamped a question to Rocket about how awful it must have been to be shot, to which Rocket replied, “yeah, and I’d like to know who the fuck did it.”

It wasn’t the first time “fuck” was said on the show. Paul Shaffer slipped up while playing a Cockney and said “fucking” but the Cockney accent was sufficient to mask it, and Prince as musical guest once might have sang it but it was again unclear.

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> I don’t get the Garrett Morris antipathy, either. He is a talented guy, studied at Julliard, and just didn’t get any good roles to play (aside from the “shotgun/whitey” song and “Garrett Morris, headmaster of the New York School for the Hard of Hearing.”).

I’m sure he’s a nice enough guy but he blew chunks on the show. He didn’t produce material for himself despite being hired initially as a writer, he wasn’t funny most of the time and the few times he was funny the bit was beaten into the ground (“Bese-boll…ha’ been berry berry good to me”…STFU!). He was hardly the only worthless cast member in the show’s history but he got there first and made a really bad impression.

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/30 "2005-03-08T20:06:05Z")

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> [@Sauron](#):
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> Okay, so what did Norm McDonald do to get in the doghouse? Didn’t he get kicked off the show? I thought it was for swearing during a “Weekend Update” segment.

IIRC, one of the suits at NBC was a friend of O.J’s and got tired of Norm constantly refering to him as a murderer.

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/31 "2005-03-08T20:29:07Z")

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Okay, I just got semi-independent verification from my wife, the lovely and talented **Aries28** , that Norm McDonald did indeed say “fuck” during a Weekend Update segment when he was the anchor. She was watching the show when he did it. He left the show shortly thereafter.

Man, I feel better. I thought I was going crazy, and that I’d somehow superimposed images from shows 20 years apart.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/32 "2005-03-08T21:02:55Z")

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Ooh, this is fun:

1. Adam Sandler is the devil
2. Jan Hooks
3. Nora Dunn
4. Tim Meadows
5. Colin Quinn
6. Jim Breuer
7. Brad Hall
8. Molly Shannon
9. Victoria Jackson

(I hope that’s not the 1980 cast - I just picked the ones I hated from memory)

Close calls:

Kevin Nealon gets off the hook because of Hans & Franz and the subliminal guy.

Joe Piscopo as well because IIRC he did a good Sinatra impression.

Chris Kattan was a very close call, but I did like his Antonio Banderas bit.

And Rob Schneider’s “Rob Schneider’s Girlfriend Theater” saved him from my list.

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/33 "2005-03-08T21:10:30Z")

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Jim Breuer  
Colin Quinn  
Chris Kattan  
Molly Shannon  
Cheri Oteri  
Adam Sandler  
Dennis Miller  
Gilbert Gottfried  
Mike Myers

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/34 "2005-03-09T00:52:17Z")

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These lists just go to show how much tastes vary. I think Will Ferrell is one of the best SNLers ever, and I’ve seen him on someone’s list. I also like Molly Shannon.

I never saw the original cast, or the one right after that, so I don’t know if Charles Rocket sucked or not.

Ah well, here’s mine

Tim Kazurinsky (He used to do this I Married a Monkey sketch that annoyed the bejeebus out of me)  
Gary Kroeger  
Brad Hall  
Jim Belushi  
Pamela Stephenson (English lady)  
Robert Downey  
Danitra Vance  
Ellen Cleghorne  
Jim Breuer (Will spend eternity in Hell for that Goat Boy sketch)

And doing the news: Kevin Nealon.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/35 "2005-03-09T02:20:39Z")

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1. Will Ferrell. Never before has a man so unfunny made so much money in comedy.

2. Chris Kattan, The Monkey Man

3. Joe Freakin’ Piscopo

4. Molly Shannon - Die, die, die, you hideous twat

5. Jim Breuer. Goat Boy. I need say no more.

6. Colin Quinn. How did this big, stupid oaf ever get into the entertainment business?

7. Cheri Oteri, for the stupid phony name as much as the total lack of funny

8. Anthony Michael Hall. Having Anthony Michael Hall on the cast of SNL because he can tell a joke in a movie like “Sixteen Candles” is sort of like asking Jodie Foster to pitch Game 1 of the World Series because she could pitch in “Bad New Bears.”

9. A. Whitney Brown. Just why the fuck was this dorkus malorkus on a comedy sketch show?

10.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/36 "2005-03-09T05:43:30Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> 1. Will Ferrell. Never before has a man so unfunny made so much money in comedy.

Ferrell’s not even in the top ten, and he’ll certainly never be number 1 as long as Jerry Lewis is still alive.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/37 "2005-03-09T05:55:39Z")

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> [@SolGrundy](#):
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> The musical guests wouldn’t change, but instead use Smashmouth as the house band. The Scissor Sisters would frequently drop in and jam.

Sorry, if we’re going for annoying, the house band is still G.E. Smith and his Posse of Poseurs. Fuck, I hated that asshole, and I only had to see him at the bumpers.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/38 "2005-03-09T05:57:44Z")

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> [@scotandrsn](#):
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> Sorry, if we’re going for annoying, the house band is still G.E. Smith and his Posse of Poseurs. Fuck, I hated that asshole, and I only had to see him at the bumpers.

I always hated G.E. Smith too! I don’t even know why, except I hated his playing and he looked like an asshole in his Gomez Addams suits (although I’d love suits like that, honestly). I like the current Lenny Pickett-led band much more.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/39 "2005-03-09T09:14:14Z")

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> [@scotandrsn](#):
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> Sorry, if we’re going for annoying, the house band is still G.E. Smith and his Posse of Poseurs. Fuck, I hated that asshole, and I only had to see him at the bumpers.

Oh, geez, that’s that hammy guitar player who was always cheezing it up at the commercial breaks, right? How did he keep the job so long? Most annoying musician ever. They even did a parody of him on The Simpsons. And I remember one show where he played a tune with Eddie Van Halen, and he actually tried to _upstage_ the guy. :eek:

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/40 "2005-03-09T09:17:13Z")

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Oh, and that sax player’s gotta go, too. Yeah, we get it - you can play high notes. What else ya got?

And while I’m on a roll, it wouldn’t kill 'em to write a new song every 20 years or so. They do the _exact same_ tunes on the _exact same_ breaks every week.

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