# Assemble your SNL nightmare cast!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 7, 2005, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313 "2005-03-07T04:47:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/41 "2005-03-09T16:54:40Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> 1. A. Whitney Brown. Just why the fuck was this dorkus malorkus on a comedy sketch show?

Because he was fucking hilarious. It is a wit so dry it makes your mouth pucker, and certainly not for every taste. God, I miss him.

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**Author:** ![DocJon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@DocJon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocJon)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/42 "2005-03-10T07:44:11Z")

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> [@Stoid](#):
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> Because he was fucking hilarious. It is a wit so dry it makes your mouth pucker, and certainly not for every taste. God, I miss him.

Amen! When were in high school, my friends and I watched for Weekend Update with Dennis Miller, but “The Big Picture” was the Update showcase for us. The rest of the show was hit or miss, but we’d at least watch until Update was over.

-DocJon

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/43 "2005-03-10T08:39:56Z")

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> [@SolGrundy](#):
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> Whoa…Gilbert Gottfried

I’ve got to defend Gilbert. I realize a lot of people hate him, but I have to think that he just gets badly written parts or something, because when left to his own devices the man is a comedic genius.

Re: Jim Breuer:

I remember Jim Breuer doing a pretty funny stand-up in the mid/late 90s, but other than that and _Half-Baked_ I never really noticed him one way or another. I vaguely remember goat-boy but don’t remember if I liked it or not. I thought he was kind of one of those background guys, not much substance to hate.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/44 "2005-03-10T09:23:17Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Re: Jim Breuer:
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> I remember Jim Breuer doing a pretty funny stand-up in the mid/late 90s, but other than that and _Half-Baked_ I never really noticed him one way or another.

Thing is, that’s the extent of his act. I saw him a couple of years ago and he did the same routine he’d done on Comedy Central years before. I suppose a little of it had to be different, but you wouldn’t know. I guess he hadn’t gone out on tour in a while. Anyway it was not a memorable event. Dave Chappelle went on first and, heh, smoked him.

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**Author:** ![scotandrsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scotandrsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotandrsn)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/45 "2005-03-10T16:33:55Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> I’ve got to defend Gilbert. I realize a lot of people hate him, but I have to think that he just gets badly written parts or something, because when left to his own devices the man is a comedic genius.

I absolutely despised GG on SNL. The only time his persona worked for me was in Beverly Hills Cop II, for reasons inexplicable to me. Any mention of his presence in a project was a signal for me to stay far away.

I started to change my mind about him when a friend told me about a job he had hosting [USA Up All Night](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0272417/). Once, at a return from commercial, he said “we now return to tonight’s movie, a film about as wild and unpredictable as tomorrow’s sunrise!” That made me laugh.

Then there was the time when, as Iago the Parrot in “Aladdin”, he shrieks, just as Aladdin bursts in to spoil Jafar’s plot, “Why am I not a BIT surprised?!?” which cracked me up as well. (And yes, I also laughed at the most recent Disney ad, where he returns, yelling at the toll attendant: “No, I don’t have any quahtiz!”

I have also enjoyed a few of his bits on Leno. And IMDB just told me he’s the AFLAC duck, which I should have realized ages ago, and, shoot me, but I like those ads.

So I guess I’ve warmed up to him, or he ages well, or has better writers now, or something.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/46 "2005-03-10T16:44:54Z")

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I can’t believe nobody has mentioned Tim Meadows. What was it…nine seasons of mediocrity?

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/47 "2005-03-10T17:19:46Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> I’ve got to defend Gilbert. I realize a lot of people hate him, but I have to think that he just gets badly written parts or something, because when left to his own devices the man is a comedic genius.

I don’t hate Gottfried at all, just thought he was awful on SNL. I remember a routine from years ago, from Letterman I think, where GG was talking about Moby Dick. There were a half-dozen or so of us watching and the entire room was in hysterics. Sketch comedy is just the wrong format for his talent.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/48 "2005-03-10T18:30:17Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Ferrell’s not even in the top ten, and he’ll certainly never be number 1 as long as Jerry Lewis is still alive.

Lewis was mildly funny 40 years ago.

I challenge you to name ten people who have been as famous and successful as Will Ferrell without being funny. (This is harder than you think; Tom Green was never funny, but he wasn’t as successful as Will Ferrell.) I will spot you Pauly Shore.

Go.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/49 "2005-03-10T18:57:31Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Lewis was mildly funny 40 years ago.
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> I challenge you to name ten people who have been as famous and successful as Will Ferrell without being funny. (This is harder than you think; Tom Green was never funny, but he wasn’t as successful as Will Ferrell.) I will spot you Pauly Shore.
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> Go.

Bob Hope  
Lucille Ball  
Jim Carrey  
Carol Burnette  
Ray Romano  
Peggy Marshall  
Adam Sandler  
Tom Arnold  
Whoopi Goldberg  
Drew Carey

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/50 "2005-03-10T19:30:29Z")

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> [@blowero](#):
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> Bob Hope  
> Lucille Ball
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> Carol Burnette
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> Tom Arnold  
> Whoopi Goldberg

I’ll take issue with these. I’m not a fan of Hope’s but I have seen routines of his that killed me. Most of his reputation comes from his entertaining the troops so he’s cut a lot of slack but he was funny on occasion. Ball was a genius physical comedian. Burnette is also a good physical comedian and can deliver a punchline. Tom Arnold was funny on _Roseanne_ and on various guest appearances (he has a sports show on Fox Sports that I don’t watch but am told is a stitch). Track down Whoopi’s first Broadway show and after watching it say again that she’s not funny.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/51 "2005-03-10T19:40:23Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Ball was a genius physical comedian. Burnette is also a good physical comedian and can deliver a punchline.

I guess I don’t go for that kind of broad physical comedy (no pun intended). YMMV. That reminds me, I should have put Gallagher on my list.

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> Tom Arnold was funny on _Roseanne_ and on various guest appearances (he has a sports show on Fox Sports that I don’t watch but am told is a stitch).

I think that’s more a testament to the writers than to him. As an actor he’s not that great - kind of stiff. I haven’t seen much of the sports show.

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> Track down Whoopi’s first Broadway show and after watching it say again that she’s not funny.

I’ll have to take your word on that. I’ve seen some of her stand-up stuff and it did nothing for me.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/52 "2005-03-10T19:44:10Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I can’t believe nobody has mentioned Tim Meadows. What was it…nine seasons of mediocrity?

…ahem…

> [@blowero](#):
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> 1. Tim Meadows

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/53 "2005-03-10T20:07:11Z")

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And Drew Carey conceived of and brought “Whose Line is it Anyway” to television.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/54 "2005-03-10T20:20:46Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> And Drew Carey conceived of and brought “Whose Line is it Anyway” to television.

The Brits had [it](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094580/combined?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD1vbnxmYj11fHBuPTF8cT13aG9zZSBsaW5lfG14PTIwfGxtPTUwMHxodG1sPTE_;fc=2;ft=20;fm=1) on the air a decade before Drew Carey.

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**Author:** ![monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monster)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/55 "2005-03-10T20:21:16Z")

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I love Drew Carey as much as the next gal, but I don’t think he conceived “Whose Line is it Anyway”. I saw the original show hosted by Clive Anderson in the UK (on American Comedy Central) years before Drew made it in America.

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**Author:** ![monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monster)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/56 "2005-03-10T20:22:17Z")

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Jinx, Otto! 🙂

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/57 "2005-03-10T20:50:53Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> I’ve got to defend Gilbert. I realize a lot of people hate him, but I have to think that he just gets badly written parts or something, because when left to his own devices the man is a comedic genius.

I think it’s a little bit more than a stretch to call him a comedic genius, but he can be pretty funny doing stand-up. There was a bit he did on “Late Night” talking about getting trapped in the land of One-Named People and then escaping to the land of Three-Named People, where he was attacked by Olivia Newton-John and Phillip Michael Thomas and… pretty much the entire cast of “The Cosby Show.”

He’s pretty much an adequately clever guy with a very narrow schtick, and he got way too popular way too fast, which is why he was cast on a sketch comedy show for which he was inappropriate.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2005, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-nightmare-cast/293313/58 "2005-03-10T21:05:04Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> And Drew Carey conceived of and brought “Whose Line is it Anyway” to television.

Doesn’t make him funny, though. It’s like a street football game: You have your good players, and then you have “the guy who brought the football”.

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