# Asshat Martha Stewart to Face Criminal Indictment **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 4, 2003, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561 "2003-06-04T12:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df788c/32.png) [@And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/And_that_s_the_bottom_line)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/1 "2003-06-04T12:03:30Z")
[It was reported earlier today](http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/04/business/04MART.html?ex=1055304000&en=4071b953ffbbbca5&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE) that Martha Stewart will face criminal charges as early as this week. If this happens Martha Stewart will step down as President and CEO of her own multi-billion dollar company. How the mighty have fallen. And that’s the bottom line ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/2 "2003-06-04T12:15:30Z")
It’s a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/3 "2003-06-04T13:14:38Z")
What’s that german word for taking glee in the misfortune of others? Shaudensomething? Gots me some of that. (I know “gots” is ignorant sounding. Also, this is now the “bottom line”.) ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/4 "2003-06-04T13:18:12Z")
Schadenfreude is the word your looking for. A positive glee, with ever so slightly a guilty flavor to it, over the misfortunes of others. ---
**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/5 "2003-06-04T13:25:39Z")
Yes, that’s it. Though not so much guilt… ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/6 "2003-06-04T13:48:39Z")
This is from the [Chicago Sun Times](http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/martha03.html) “Just this week, doctors concluded Erbitux, the ImClone cancer drug, worked just as well as an earlier company-sponsored study said it did. ImClone stock rose sharply on the news.” Being bitten in the ass - it’s a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/7 "2003-06-04T13:50:20Z")
I saw on CNN this morning, and forgive me but I don’t remember the exact numbers, but Marth made only a couple of hundred thousand off her stock deal. While other companies have HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS in bad accounting scandals but no inditments have come down on them. yet. I know a crime is a crime is a crime but why are people so down on Martha and so hell bent to pull her down? ---
**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/8 "2003-06-04T13:54:50Z")
My husband is beside himself. He has this weird fascination with Martha Stewart. He’s worried about what will happen to her show. He’s not so much a fan… he’s just intriqued. He took great glee in a recent biogrpahy on her that dished all sorts of unflattering dirt on her. But he loves her show. And recently bought one of her cookbooks. He doesn’t cook. Yes, I know. It’s disturbing. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/9 "2003-06-04T14:08:08Z")
Cranky, that’s hilarious. What I’m curious about though is why in the hell is it that the frikkin’ **U.S. Congress** is the one investigating her, or at least the one who’s raising all the fluff? Am I wrong or just what in the hell is it that I’m missing? I’m pretty sure she’s guilty as hell but it’s the buisiness of the Congress how? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/10 "2003-06-04T14:09:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zebra \* > \*\*I know a crime is a crime is a crime but why are people so down on Martha and so hell bent to pull her down? \*\* I wonder this myself. Obviously, if she committed the crime she should do the time. But having said that – Good Lord, this woman built a billion dollar empire more or less from scratch. She’s created hundreds (possibly thousands) of jobs. And she did it the old-fashioned way: by working hard and crafting products that people wanted to buy. That really is a Good Thing ™. People, don’t be a Martha-hata! ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/11 "2003-06-04T14:14:08Z")
* * * ## Originally posted by Zebra I know a crime is a crime is a crime but why are people so down on Martha and so hell bent to pull her down? Probably because of the general perception that she’s in fact a real bitch but tries to portray and profit from a sweet, wholesome manufactured image. She lied to us. We want her bitchslapped. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/12 "2003-06-04T14:20:30Z")
I’m just flabbergasted that she violated federal law and risked a huge punishment, up to and including prison time, to unload bad stock for just under $300,000 dollars. The woman is a freakin’ _multimillionaire_. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/13 "2003-06-04T14:33:02Z")
If memory serves me correct, when her stock went pubic she was a billionaire. ---
**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/14 "2003-06-04T14:37:02Z")
[As is often the case, **lieu** is correct.](http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/people/shows/stewart/profile.html) ---
**Author:** ![Stonebow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Stonebow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stonebow)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/15 "2003-06-04T14:48:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zebra \* > \*\*I know a crime is a crime is a crime but why are people so down on Martha and so hell bent to pull her down? \*\* Probably because she’s reputed to be a world-class bitch. For those of you who can remember, think ‘Leona Helmsley.’ Also, she makes her living capitalizing on the idea of a ‘happy home’ when she can’t keep any sort of stable relationship herself (husbands, children, etc.) Chickens coming home to roost and all that. Though the woman makes a damn fine centerpiece. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/16 "2003-06-04T15:04:37Z")
Aw crap, I of course meant when her stock went public, not pubic. That’s the last thing I’d want a memory of, her perfectly quaffed pubes. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/17 "2003-06-04T15:07:10Z")
Actually posting a lame ass catch phrase at the bottom of every damn post is beyond annoying. And that’s the **real** bottom line. ---
**Author:** ![DogMom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@DogMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DogMom)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/18 "2003-06-04T15:34:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lieu \* > \*\*Aw crap, I of course meant when her stock went public, not pubic. That’s the last thing I’d want a memory of, her perfectly quaffed pubes. \*\* Not a spelling flame, really it’s not…just pointing out that this is an image **I** really didn’t need, considering that I sure do **hope** you meant “coiffed”. “Quaffed” is…well… From [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=quaffed) > [@](#): > > **quaff** (pron. kwaf): > verb: to drink (a beverage) heartily > Verb: to drink a liquid hearily > noun: a hearty draft of liquid Please, please, please tell me you didn’t mean THAT one…😃 ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/19 "2003-06-04T15:42:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Particlewill \* > **What’s that german word for taking glee in the misfortune of others? Shaudensomething?** I saw a newspaper article about her a few months ago, and they coined one just for her: “blondenfreude.” ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561/20 "2003-06-04T15:49:29Z")
Bwhaa! Oh man, was that ever in need of a clarification! Thanks **kfwilkinson** , I stand corrupted. **elf6c** , was I whooshed or did you mean to post to another thrtead? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-martha-stewart-to-face-criminal-indictment/179561.md?page=2)