# Asshat Ohio State fans

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**Created:** [November 24, 2002, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523 "2002-11-24T20:19:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/41 "2002-11-25T13:27:38Z")

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Followup: According to today’s Columbus Dispatch (story should be on their website, which I believe requires registration), 7 of the 48 arrested for various crimes during the riot and associated festivities were current students. 6 others were alumni and 1 was a former student.

Seeing that there were probably many others involved in illegal activities who were not arrested, a reasonable conclusion is that a (substantial) minority of those behaving criminally were current or former O.S.U. students.

I’m not a big fan of video surveillance, but one option that should be considered to prevent this kind of thing in the future is a highly publicized videocam presence in the university district active on game nights (the police have already announced that they will be studying available videotape from Saturday night to see if any further arrests can be made).

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/42 "2002-11-25T14:19:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by WSLer \*  
> \*\*Harvard won 20-13 \*\*

Not to hijack, but after this game, those asshat Harvard students went batshit and had a riot.

They went over to the Yale campus and used their electron microscope, and left, WITHOUT RECALIBRATING THE DIFFERENTIAL!!!

Fuckwads.

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**Author:** ![Jerrybear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8c91f0/32.png) [@Jerrybear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jerrybear)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/43 "2002-11-25T15:58:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by UncleBill \*  
> \*\* but to my knowledge Miami fans don’t pull this crap.  
> \*\*

Maybe the fans don’t, but the players do! They are called the Convictcanes for a reason!

I hope that Miami gets beat by Ohio State, or better yet, that they lose their last two regular season games and do not make the Fiesta at all.

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**Author:** ![BarBQSauce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@BarBQSauce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarBQSauce)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/44 "2002-11-25T16:51:25Z")

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[http://www.thelantern.com/news/332686.html?mkey=52670](http://www.thelantern.com/news/332686.html?mkey=52670)  
Only 3/6 of the students interviewed for [this](http://www.thelantern.com/news/332691.html?mkey=52670) story are OSU students.  
[http://www.thelantern.com/news/332695.html?mkey=52670](http://www.thelantern.com/news/332695.html?mkey=52670)  
Nope, not fair at all. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![malaka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@malaka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malaka)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/45 "2002-11-25T17:21:46Z")

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I believe that the majority of those involved in the rioting were not students, but more important…_they were not even sports fans_.

I bet that most of the people burning and flipping cars could not tell you the score of the game.

I’ve read quite a few posts that suggest penalizing the team or the university. How would that help? If I’m correct, those responsible for the riots couldn’t care less about the Buckeyes. If we had lost, there still would have been riots. If the weather were bad and there was no game, there still would have been riots.

_ **Penalize those responsible.** _ The ones that swung the bat or lit the match.

True sports fans (from ANY team) cheer on their teams hard work and good fortune.

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**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/46 "2002-11-25T17:29:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by malaka \*  
> \*\* IIf I’m correct, those responsible for the riots couldn’t care less about the Buckeyes. If we had lost, there still would have been riots. If the weather were bad and there was no game, there still would have been riots. \*\*

My B.S. meter just got pegged.

If you are correct, then penalizing the University or team would not work. I do not believe you are correct, though.

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**Author:** ![malaka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@malaka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malaka)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/47 "2002-11-25T17:30:48Z")

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Sorry, one more thing to add:

The title of this thread is “Asshat Ohio State fans”. I believe you should have titled it “Asshat rioters”. These are the people that you take offense with. I’m an Ohio State fan and do not condone the actions of those people.

Calling those people (or animals) fans is like saying that someone who has heard of the SDMB, read a couple threads and maybe even posted a message or 2 is a Doper.

Look at the pictures in **BarBQSauce** ’s first link. I don’t see very much red in there. Students or not…these people aren’t fans. I wear my scarlett and grey with pride.

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**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/48 "2002-11-25T17:37:42Z")

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Sorry for introducing a typo into the quote from **malaka**. That is my error, not **malaka** ’s.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/49 "2002-11-25T18:58:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Happy Lendervedder \*  
> **I honestly hope it wasn’t the students, because in addition to now having criminal records, it’ll fuck up their academic careers.**

Good.

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**Author:** ![emulsified](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emulsified/32/2915_2.png) [@emulsified](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emulsified)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/50 "2002-11-25T19:03:03Z")

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These stories and this thread make me want to thank God for giving me the sense to go to a school where no one gave a flying fig about any organized sport (with the possible exception of some intramural ones).

It reminds me of all the post-championship Bulls riots here in Chicago. I would watch them on TV and wonder why these people didn’t realize that _they_ hadn’t won anything. Somehow I think they were under the impression that they got a share of the winnings.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/51 "2002-11-25T19:16:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Hamlet \*  
> \*\*Not to hijack, but after this game, those asshat Harvard students went batshit and had a riot.
> 
> They went over to the Yale campus and used their electron microscope, and left, WITHOUT RECALIBRATING THE DIFFERENTIAL!!!
> 
> Fuckwads. \*\*

I am shocked. **Shocked!** :eek:

I certainly hope the Yaleys go over to Harvard’s library and reshelve the books any which way they please in retaliation!

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**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/52 "2002-11-25T20:01:05Z")

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> As I said [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2632645)
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> You do realize that the vast, vast majority of the cretins, vandals, and hoodlums were non-OSU students, right?
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> That many, if not most of the damage caused came about from no-good elements that came to campus specifically to break shit, right?
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> That this sort of thing is not unknown and, while quite sad, should not be heaped upon 99.79% of the 105,000+ football fans in attendance and the many thousand more fans tailgating and watching around/near the campus, right?
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> Never mind that an organization (Campus Partners) decided for the students to close, then demolish ALL south campus bars, leaving three blocks of gravel lots and nowhere for people to congregate, party, whatnot. Leaving the option of nothing or house party. House parties that spread the drunken revelry around, rather than keep it condensed in a controllable area. House parties that have no bouncers to break up fights so they last no longer than 30 seconds. House parties that can easily spill into the streets and continue, as opposed to the situation with a bar where, once you’re out, you’re out and no more alcohol for you. I’m not going to get into that, because you obviously have no desire to find out anything about the Columbus area, the Ohio State University.
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> Yes, people were complete and utter jackassi (new word, plural, dig it), but that’s mostly random people, and not Buckeye fans. Assholes will take any excuse to be assholes.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/53 "2002-11-26T01:10:29Z")

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I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I have been following the thread, and reading the relevant links. I checked the Yahoo photos, and sure enough, I saw a shot of people tearing up the turf.

Do they have to do that?! Yes, I know a mob is going to do what it’s going to do, but Jesuchristo, if I were a groundskeeper at OSU, I would be chewing glass.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/54 "2002-11-26T12:28:42Z")

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Ohioans are not that accustomed to winning. When it happens, we tend to go a little overboard.

I remember when University of Dayton was in the Final Four. Wasn’t exactly a riot, but many sofas were burned in the street on THAT day. (I, personally, wouldn’t celebrate that way. But that’s me)

I saw similar behaviour when the Lakers won the Championships.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/55 "2002-11-26T20:47:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SpazCat \*  
> \*\*from the article provided by **Jessica2**  
> I quote this to show how lame State is. Two years ago when ECU handed State their red-shirted asses on a platter, we tore down the goalposts in victory. However, we did not need to break anyone’s legs to prove our superiority. We merely tore down goalposts and drank ourselves into a stupor.
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Lame??? This coming from a quadraplegic! State is the only ACC team that’ll play ECU more often than once in a millenium. Plus, that one-sided fairground stand you call a stadium in the swamplands is NEVER chosen as the place to play unless you’re up against a junior college team like Gardner-Webb. The only reason ECU fans never tear down their own goal posts is because it’s half the town’s budget!

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshat-ohio-state-fans/138523/56 "2002-11-26T20:56:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Knowed Out \*  
> \*\*Lame??? This coming from a quadraplegic! State is the only ACC team that’ll play ECU more often than once in a millenium.  
> \*\*

Not so. We play Duke at least once a year. Granted, that’s the football team, so it’s not much of anything…

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> Plus, that one-sided fairground stand you call a stadium in the swamplands is NEVER chosen as the place to play unless you’re up against a junior college team like Gardner-Webb.  
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Bah! They’re just scared a’ tha floodwaters! Feckin’ cowards all of 'em! If ECU can battle the mighty waters of Floyd the Destructor and come out on top, why can’t those wussy inland colleges? Sure, all of the west campus was flooded, but that didn’t stop us from building the new Science and Technology building **right in the middle of a drained lakebed.**

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> The only reason ECU fans never tear down their own goal posts is because it’s half the town’s budget! \*\*

But it was our own goalposts we tore down. Also it’s a bit unfair to say that the football team is half the town’s economy. At least a quarter of it comes from the roughly 9,784,658 bars downtown. 😉 When The Attic falls, so falls Greenville.

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