# Asshole fans attack Chicago's first base coach **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 20, 2002, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827 "2002-09-20T16:10:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/1 "2002-09-20T16:10:15Z")
What in hell are people like [this](http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=220919104) thinking? A father and son asswipe team charges from the stands and tackles a first base coach from behind and try to beat him up. Can we guess at these guys’ IQs? First: to do this in the first place, you have to be an imbecile. Second: to do this a few feet from a dugout full of 200-pound, hard muscled professional baseball players, you have to be below an imbecile. You can bet the ball players poured out and kicked the shit out of the guys. Have the jerks made any statement as to what in the world their beef was? Not that there could be anything that would excuse them. I’m just curious why they worked themselves up into such a state. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/2 "2002-09-20T16:21:24Z")
It was Kansas City’s coach, but regardless… Have you seen pictures of these two jackasses? Not exactly the poster children for middle-class family values. Happy ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/3 "2002-09-20T16:21:33Z")
Point of contention: The fans attacked Kansas City’s first-base coach, not Chicago’s. And kudos to the Chicago first baseman and the umpire who saw this happening, yet slowly backed away. Way to stick up for one of your own, guys. ---
**Author:** ![december](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@december](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/december)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/4 "2002-09-20T16:21:40Z")
I saw the “replay” several times. Both the father and the son had taken their shirts off before runing onto the field. I don’t know what the bare chest may have sympolized. The coach was an elderly man. It was one of the ugliest things seen on TV in some time. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/5 "2002-09-20T16:54:21Z")
Reported on WGN, that they jumped the guy because “he gave him the finger” and “deserved everything he got” The father also had a pocketknife in his pocket that had to be knocked away and taken into evidence. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/6 "2002-09-20T17:00:11Z")
I’ve been trying to find a link, but everywhere I’ve had to register with some bullshit. Little help please? I heard the players beat the shit out of them pretty well, and I’m salivating to see that. I hope it didn’t have anything to do with alcohol, because it will be banned from games. I hope everyone enjoys watching games through a 20 foot high barbed-wire fence, because thanks to these two morons, that will probably be the case. ---
**Author:** ![blur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dbc845/32.png) [@blur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blur)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/7 "2002-09-20T17:00:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \* > \*\*Reported on WGN, that they jumped the guy because “he gave him the finger” and “deserved everything he got” > > \*\* Gee, you can’t really argue with that reasoning. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/8 "2002-09-20T17:26:23Z")
Lots of “issues” with Sox home games- but this is nuts. The pictures (see [www.espn.com](http://www.espn.com)) are distrubing, but the ass whipping the father-son team of mouthbreathers was excellent. Son is getting off with juvie charges as he is 15, but dad’s going to get a whole world of hurt. Hard to plead “not guilty” on that one. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/9 "2002-09-20T17:43:45Z")
I meant to say the beating the Royals gave those morons until security saved them from the players. Cites for those interested: [http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/2002/09/19/royals\_whitesox\_ap/](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/2002/09/19/royals_whitesox_ap/) [http://msn.espn.go.com/main.html](http://msn.espn.go.com/main.html) Check out the post arrest of the stupid moutherfucker. Living stereotype right there :rolleyes: [http://www.sportingnews.com/baseball/scoreboard/20020919/recap/428315.html](http://www.sportingnews.com/baseball/scoreboard/20020919/recap/428315.html) > [@](#): > > The White Sox players who were on the field ran over to see what was happening, turning first base into a wild scene. Security came on the field and tried to break it up, but it was several minutes before order was restored. > > “Security did a good job cleaning it up,” Royals first baseman Mike Sweeney said. “If it wasn’t for them, we’d probably still be beating on those guys.” ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/10 "2002-09-20T17:52:15Z")
Aight, just saw the video, wow. All I can say is when the Royals came out like a herd of buffalo, that was the ultimate definition of “bum rush”. I hope those nuts rot. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/11 "2002-09-20T17:55:33Z")
First, I am depressed and sickened to be a White Sox fan today (well, moreso than every other day.) Two assholes who probably have the same mother put yet another black eye on Chicago sports. But I have to take issue with this bullshit: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sauron \* > And kudos to the Chicago first baseman and the umpire who saw this happening, yet slowly backed away. Way to stick up for one of your own, guys. Paul Konerko was the first baseman, and he fielding a bunt when this occurred, and the umpire was watching the field. Don’t make it sound like Paulie was anything but disgusted and upset about this. And I like Konerko’s quote: “I wish they had left the players out there to beat on them for an hour.” ---
**Author:** ![december](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@december](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/december)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/12 "2002-09-20T18:22:06Z")
**jarbabyj** \<\\> As I heard it, an unopened pocket knife fell out of the father’s pocket during the melee. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/13 "2002-09-20T18:40:29Z")
Okay, let’s be honest One of three things had to be involved here: 1. Beer 2. Drugs 3. Beer and drugs A father _and his juvenile son,_ stripped to the waist, go charging onto a major league baseball diamond, which itself would get you in jail, and proceed to attack an old man, which inevitably arouses the wrath of 25-50 professional athletes, most of whom are 6 feet tall or taller and lift weights every day. Teh reason? They were given the finger. Yup. Beer AND drugs. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/14 "2002-09-20T18:47:19Z")
Next, on **FOX** - **"When Asshole Fans Attack"** ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/15 "2002-09-20T19:15:47Z")
I’m with you **Rick** I wonder when we’ll see 'em on Springer. ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/16 "2002-09-20T19:24:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hamlet \*Paul Konerko was the first baseman, and he fielding a bunt when this occurred, and the umpire was watching the field. Don’t make it sound like Paulie was anything but disgusted and upset about this. In the first place, you idiot, the pop-up bunt was fielded by the pitcher (who made a nice diving grab). Maybe Konerko was moving in the same direction as the play, and it wasn’t him standing next to first base. Maybe it was the second baseman, covering first on the bunt. But SOME White Sox player who was standing beside first base, along with the first-base umpire, watched those two imbeciles start pounding away on the coach and slowly backed away. I saw this happen on the replay with my own two eyes. So don’t try telling me it didn’t happen that way. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/17 "2002-09-20T19:36:13Z")
Straight from the horses mouth: > [@](#): > > Gamboa said he doesn’t blame White Sox security for the incident. And he doesn’t fault first-base umpire Matt Hollowell or White Sox second baseman Willie Harris for not immediately coming to his aid. > "In fairness to everybody,’’ Gamboa said, "everyone was stunned.’’ > But this should be a sobering lesson to everyone, Beltran said. The next incident might not end so well. ---
**Author:** ![Marine\_One](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marine_one/32/3461_2.png) [@Marine\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marine_One)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/18 "2002-09-20T19:41:16Z")
The local view on this in Kansas City is that it could happen anywhere, Chicago just was were Moron and Moron Jr. lived. These guys could only have had these thoughts: - They’re gonna let us finish, then we can go back to our seats! - They’re just gonna eject us from the ballpark! - It’s against the law for players to attack fans! Mike Sweeney, the first baseman, is known as a clean living, never swearing, good guy. But he was quoted as saying he should have killed them. And he was giving Dad the Moron a verbal blast until they took him off the field. To me, it looked like the Chicago first baseman was moving away because he saw the Royals bench charging the guys. ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/19 "2002-09-20T19:45:16Z")
A quick apology: **Hamlet** , I shouldn’t have called you an idiot. That was uncalled-for. My apologies. I still say Willie Harris or Matt Hollowell, or both (thanks for the info, **elf6c** , should have come to Gamboa’s aid instead of doing their best to quickly calculate the gross national product of Peru as expressed in Dutch guilders, or whatever was occupying their time. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827/20 "2002-09-20T19:45:41Z")
Well that ump should have done something. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-fans-attack-chicagos-first-base-coach/128827.md?page=2)