# Asshole + Shit + SDMB Poster = Chas.E **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 21, 2001, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696 "2001-06-21T21:49:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Monster104](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Monster104](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monster104)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/1 "2001-06-21T21:49:15Z")
I’m talking about [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=64785) thread and [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=73740) thread. The first is the most recent Mac vs. PC debate from several months ago (March), and the latter is from the current thread about Windows XP. **Chas.E** , in both threads you’ve insulted me and generally acted like an asshole, and I’m calling you out. To start, on the first page in the Mac vs. PC thread, you were telling biased, incorrect, and nonfactual information. I, among others, called you on this. You then proceeded to spew your bullshit until I came across your reference to arguing with a teenager. When I mentioned that I was, at the time, a 17 year old and not a computer professional, you provided these two gems: > [@](#): > > I KNEW it. 17 going on 14, more like. > > Game Over, dood. You can try again when you grow up and graduate from high school. and > [@](#): > > You might make big milage with your 1337 HaX0r d00d buddies with your line of mac bashing, but so far you’ve only proven your immaturity. This started the process of insulting me. Not only did you make references to me being a hacker, YOU of all people called me immature. I suggest you look up the definition of that term before you think about using it. I question your reasoning behind dismissing my arguments based on my age, and you said: > [@](#): > > You have no experience, no ability to evaluate the situation clearly and logically, you have only the bravado that the ignorance of youth brings. You get your kicks from dragging people, especially those with much more experience, into lame arguments. I could refute you endlessly but there is no point Not only is this a stupid ass statement, you follow it up with this: > [@](#): > > Game over, little troll. I’m sure everyone with an IQ greater than that of a goldfish can see where this is headed. Obviously, this has proven very difficult for you, so I’ll continue. > [@](#): > > If someone is an obvious troll, and can cite only information from paid PC propagandists like CNet (paid for by Intel) then I’ll give it the consideration it deserves: none. After all, that’s the consideration my argument is getting from the little trolls, despite scrupulously accurate web cites, patent docs, etc etc. You proceed to call me a Troll (twice more) without ANY sort of logical evidence, which is against board policy in the first place, and you do it in the wrong forum! And you insist that _I’m_ the one being immature? Now, after this incident in the Mac vs. PC debate, I asked for an apology. A simple apology for insulting me. But what do you do? You dropped out from the thread, and what do you know…the thread is continued in a civil manner! This implies that you are the ignorant asshole responsible for sidetracking a good debate into an insulting pissmatch. You continue your own humiliation in the Windows XP thread. You continue to make stupid, illogical statements using cites that contain some factual information, then drift into assumptions and possibilities, and you treat those assumptions as fact. You also continue to insult me and further accuse me of being a hacker, although you did seem to evolve one evolutionary level and stopped calling me a troll. > [@](#): > > He obviously has an old leaked beta that does not have XP’s current feature set. Why is it that all the other reviewers know about these features but he doesn’t? Perhaps it is because those reviewers are REAL beta testers with access to the latest official builds, rather than 1337 haX0rs with dodgy pirated software? So, you immediatly accuse me of having acquired a hacked beta **without any information that would even hint of it**. You continue in that post: > [@](#): > > As far as your personal insults, you bore me. This isn’t the Pit so lose the attitude. Disprove me with facts, attitude don’t mean squat. The only thing I hate more than an ignorant piece of shit like you is a hypocritical, ignorant piece of shit like you. After this, I again ask for an apology. You being the asshole that you are, refuse to provide one. What’s the matter? Not able to admit that you’re wrong? You coward. You simply say: > [@](#): > > No apologies are warranted. Are you going to stalk me on this board whenever I post on a computer thread? Get over yourself. No apologies warranted? You’ve continued to attack me _ **simply because I disagree with you** _, and you feel you don’t owe me a simple fucking apology? What kind of disgrace of a human being are you? I have better things to do than to stalk worthless, subhuman offal. Now, many poster’s have declared that you owe me an apology, but you, being the asshole I have proven you to be, still refuse to even acknowledge that you have insulted me. > [@](#): > > No apology is owed, and none will be forthcoming. I did not make any assumptions about anyone’s character or actions, I made OBSERVATIONS about their character and actions based on their immature behavior. Everything they have done since that initial observation has only confirmed my opinion. :rolleyes: And how, pray tell, was I acting immaturely? Because I DISAGREED with you? You’re pathetic. > [@](#): > > I have nothing further to add, except that I have the right to post on MS-related topics without being stalked and harassed. I will not be baited into flame wars. If you do not want to be “stalked and harassed” (ie, proven wrong and called out after insulting someone), THEN GROW UP. Oh, but I forget, I’m the immature, illogical teen. I bow to your intellectual supremacy. :rolleyes: After this, you drop out for a while until the end of page 3, where you continue to make assumptions about me **without knowing anything about me**. > [@](#): > > Let me put things in a different light. By your own admission, you are a minor. Minors are unable to legally enter into contracts. You had to sign a nondisclosure agreement to join the MS beta program. If you did so without your parents’ signature as well, you committed fraud. Did you ask your mommy for her signature when you sent in the MS paperwork? I doubt it. 1. Although when I signed up for the beta I was 17, I have since turned 18. 2) No signatures or contracts were necessary to sign up for the beta, and I only had to agree to the EULA contained in the beta to use the product, so I therefor did not commit fraud. 3) HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU KNOW IF I ASKED MY MOM IF SHE CONSENTED? She gave me her credit card to order it! > [@](#): > > So, as I said, you fraudulently obtained an old beta. So, as I have proven, I did not fraudulently obtain the beta (Which is the only current non-technical beta available to the public right now). > [@](#): > > Now give up this stupid harassment. I’m not going to apologize to you no matter how much you harass me. Harass you? Disagreeing with you is harassment? Asking for an apology for your insults is harassment? FUCK YOU. **Chas.E** , your behavior in those threads is deplorable. You have been an asshole SIMPLY BECAUSE I DISAGREED WITH YOU. You have retained some sort of “holier-than-thou” attitude. You have continued to be a coward by refusing to apologize for insults, for making assumptions about me, and for simply telling lies. You are a most unworthy specimen of a human I have seen thus far. ---
**Author:** ![Mercutio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Mercutio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mercutio)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/2 "2001-06-21T21:59:26Z")
**fatherjohn** ’s **SCORE!** will now forever be replaced with **Chase.E** ’s **Game Over.** ---
**Author:** ![Pstarr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@Pstarr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pstarr)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/3 "2001-06-21T21:59:46Z")
I just wanted to say that the title: “Asshole + Shit + SDMB Poster =Chas.E” made me laugh out loud. Thanks for cheering me up. Tony Clitshovel ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/4 "2001-06-21T22:05:55Z")
I followed those threads long after I stopped posting to the first one. **Monster104** is correct. **Chas.E** , you really do owe him some sort of an honest apology. And, generally speaking, fuck this “computer professional” and “only 17 years old” shit. **Monster104** has shown he knows enough about PCs/OS’s/software/hardware that I would hire him, were it possible. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/5 "2001-06-21T22:15:45Z")
I usually don’t participate in threads like this, but I would like to take this opportunity to say that **Monster104** is absolutely right. I have participated in several threads with this **Chas.E**. He contributes nothing except his completely pathetic and too-often repeated Windows rantings which always manage to evolve (devolve?) into personal insults. I have always thought of him as a whiny little bastard unworthy of anyone’s time. Love the title, by the way. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/6 "2001-06-21T23:01:17Z")
Having been the fellow who started one of the thread’s that has helped inspire this thread, I have to say **Monster** is correct. I’d also like to thank him for helping make that thread the longest of any I’ve started to date. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/7 "2001-06-21T23:04:02Z")
> [@](#): > > I KNEW it. 17 going on 14, more like. > > Game Over, dood. You can try again when you grow up and graduate from high school. Yet another reason Ender’s Game should be required reading for everyone on the face of the planet. ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/8 "2001-06-21T23:37:06Z")
I’ll have to chime in on this one, and agree(as I did in the XP thread), Chas E., you owe him an apology. You have repeatedly accused him of criminal and un-ethical behavior, totally without any basis in fact. And as for his age, I have been working in the computer field of and on for his entire lifespan, but I still run into people his age who know what they are doing as well as the old timers (like myself). In a field where things change as quickly as they do, nothing I learned 10 years ago is realy all that aplicable today. To say something like you said about his age, shows me that you don’t know what the hell your talking about, or your just too frightened that your becoming obsolete. Grow up, be an adult, and apologize. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/9 "2001-06-21T23:37:27Z")
Hey man, don’t mess with Matt Damon! Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2001, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/10 "2001-06-21T23:52:23Z")
You know…he’s never going to apologize. I’d settle with going away forever. Preferably by his own decision, but I’d like to see his ass gone via the Admins as well. ---
**Author:** ![Mercutio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Mercutio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mercutio)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/11 "2001-06-22T02:12:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > **Hey man, don’t mess with Matt Damon!** Cause Conan O’Brien says so! ---
**Author:** ![Myrr21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Myrr21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrr21)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/12 "2001-06-22T02:56:23Z")
But **monster104** I thought you were a hax0r 1337??? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/13 "2001-06-22T03:00:11Z")
Fervent Macintosh afficionado checking in. Yep, Monster is entirely on the mark. Crass E has made it necessary for many of us to go around behind him saying things like “We’re not all like that, really we’re not”. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/14 "2001-06-22T03:04:17Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Mercutio** _ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by **Esprix** _ > > > > Hey man, don’t mess with Matt Damon! > > Cause Conan O’Brien says so! “In the year two thousand!” (You will, of course, pay for this, child…) Esprix ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/15 "2001-06-22T04:55:04Z")
Chas.E - I have really appreciated some of the pro-Mac information you have offered, but I have to say: Monster is a nice kid. (OK, “young man” 😉 ) I like Monster, even if he _is_ a PC person! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/16 "2001-06-22T05:56:57Z")
What I found most amusing was his accusation that Monster and I are “stalking” him… for some reason, it doesn’t permeate the layer of stupid around his skull that, hey, maybe we both just happen to enjoy Computer-related threads. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/17 "2001-06-22T06:06:56Z")
Oh, and let me remark on how little I appreciate his offensive stereotyping of young people. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/18 "2001-06-22T07:18:10Z")
Yes sir, Mister Prime Minister, sir! 😉 Esprix ---
**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/19 "2001-06-22T08:11:25Z")
**Monster** , Your first post to the XP thread was before his, so how can **Chas.E** accuse you of stalking him? He was also the one who started right out insulting people, and then starts talking about the immaturity of others! This man is not rational. ---
**Author:** ![Monster104](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Monster104](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monster104)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2001, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696/20 "2001-06-22T08:22:43Z")
He’s also an asshole. I remember being rebuked by **Gaudere** because I asked her why she didn’t hammer **Asshole** for his comments, and I was rebuked for posting in the wrong forum. I have now decided to post what I think in the right forum. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asshole-shit-sdmb-poster-chas-e/69696.md?page=2)