# Assholes **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 27, 2000, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020 "2000-07-27T06:05:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/21 "2000-07-28T01:47:48Z")
I was thinking about what you said Lexicon. I read through my post and replies that followed. It occurs to me that some people may have thought this was all directed at certain people on the boards, which it wasn’t. Well, sure, if they would like to think so then by all means they can use my words as “quit being an asshole”. I have a few people on here that should know they are not my favorite people on earth. I don’t want anything to do with them, so I avoid them as much as possible. I wont name names because I don’t want to start a board fight. I have heard the shit that goes on in chat since my time off and have been back to chat two times since I came back. I have seen implications that have gone on over there that would include asshole behavior. So, with that said. If people must go into chat and place their focus on certain people on the SD and make fun of them, I 'spose I should never consider ever going back. I wont be a part of a select few that decide to single out people and make fun of them for the sake of being an asshole. Look through the FFF and other areas on the SD and you will see that I am not making this up. Someone called someone on this exact behavior in MPSIMS today as a matter of fact. I enjoyed my chat sessions with most of those people. The group, minus a few, is a great group and have had some fun chats. It’s too bad that a few have fucked it up for others in there. Anyhow I am off track. If anyone feels I am singling them out, fine. My rant was about assholes in general – but if you take it that way then by all means take it as something that you may want to look at with your behavior and realize the world doesn’t revolve around your asshole. Oh and Lexicon, I dig you hun. I appreciate the fact that you are looking to get to the bottom of things. ---
**Author:** ![Lexicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ac8455/32.png) [@Lexicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lexicon)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/22 "2000-07-28T04:32:50Z")
I am so glad you realize that I am not A) thinking you are singling me out and B) wanting to do anything but cut to the chase, and get to the crux of the issue. I know you don’t _need_ my help, but it’s the consideration of offering it that counts. We haven’t been as “buddy-buddy” of late, but you must know that I only wish to understand what it is that is causing you to be so saddle sore that I might concoct some scheme to help you out. Once again, I know you are in no need of my help, but it’s the thought that counts. At any rate, the politics of the board are not someting I am any good at, because I don’t really pay attention to them. I hope that you can get things sorted out, so that you can be happy here, as the last time you left many were upset and other’s were confused. And manny were overjoyed upon your homecoming. So once again, I just hope everything works out for you. Let me know if you want to talk about it. ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/23 "2000-07-28T04:59:13Z")
Lexicon, You know I consider you one of my friends. I just wish that you, Mr. Cynical and I could hang out more. Anyhow, I so appreciate your concern. My need to vent about assholes ws just something I came up with last night while thinking about the last month of my life. Family, friends, people I dont even know. It all made sense and seemed like a good rant. I would hire you to beat up my detractors, I would even pay well but I can’t have you around me 24/7 so I will have to deal with my problems with a rant here and there. Well, it is a better way to vent, less violent. I didn’t single anyone out. I did mention some things that are more general, I just ranted about assholes. Anyone else have assholes in their lives they would like to bitch about? It is freeing really! ---
**Author:** ![speakeasy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@speakeasy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/speakeasy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/24 "2000-07-28T05:50:18Z")
> [@](#): > > Assholes are people that: > > You leave a message for and they don’t call you back … in a timely manner Sorry gang, can’t help you with this one. I am routinely deluged with far more calls than I can possibly respond to in a reasonable amount of time. This is entirely due to the decisions of my upper management that resulted in us being massively understaffed. I decide every Monday not to quit, but I couldn’t tell you how next Monday is going to go. I know it fucks with people’s jobs. I make the rounds as fast as I can and there is nothing more I can do about it. Life’s a bitch and then you marry one. > [@](#): > > Stand in the middle of the grocery aisle… I guess you’ve never been introduced to the fine art of full contact shopping? They get one ‘excuse me’ and about 5 seconds to respond, then I’m coming through. Tiny, frail, and/or old people are excepted. But I do know what you’re talking about. You’re talking about my old housemate. He was (is?) a construction manager in a big city. During the morning rush hour, he would cruise down the line of stopped cars looking for someone timid to cut in front of. He would extort materials and labor out of his subcontractors as a condition of their employment. He would extort free lunches from the roach coach for himself and his buddies as a condition of being allowed on site. He would trash the house and then brush off the landlord by commenting that walls, paint, and carpeting are expendible items. Incidentally kissing off MY part of the security deposit as well. He always had at least four women on the line at any one time, and each thought they were the only one, that he was in love, and he would be popping the question any day now. A typical half life was around four weeks before they would wise up, and then the tearful tirade would wash right off his back. He would even laugh at them as he brushed them off. I damn sure got real tired of hearing that crap through the wall. I got real tired of hearing him brag about it all too. He was hypercompetitive about nearly every aspect of life, and had no problem using someone’s face as a rung on the ladder. His life plan was to get rich and retire to a hoity-toity seaside villa on the spendy side of town. I got blank looks when I mentioned that he might be kinda lonely in that big house all by himself. Lonely? That’s what whores and fellow alcoholics are for. Am I being an asshole by talking about him behind his back? Nope. Disregarding the fact that I’m not letting out his real name or where he lives, I haven’t said anything here that I didn’t say to his face. And he wouldn’t deny any of it, on the contrary he would be rather proud of himself for getting away with it. And he never did understand why I didn’t like him. THAT’S an asshole. > [@](#): > > I wont name names because I don’t want to start a board fight Awww! Now where’s the fun in that? ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/25 "2000-07-28T05:50:54Z")
Anyone else want to apologize personally and directly to techchick68 for being an asshole? Or am I the only imperfect person here who can do it? Or maybe it’s because I’m so worthless and unrespected I’m the only person “low enough” to apologize directly and honestly to her? Anyone _in particular_ want to apologize for what they said about **me** in an e-mail? Or in chat? Some people are not _quite_ as innocent as they seem. I’m waiting 24 hours before I contact your ISP and raise unholy hell…the clock is ticking. And one fuck is obviously posting from work. Now that’s not just stupid, that’s “Missouri Mule” stupid, as my grandma used to say. I **will** contact your HR department directly, by phone, and tell them about your e-mail. Oh yes, how _could_ I forget. Anyone want to apologize for making physical threats and very crude insults against my best friend on this board a few weeks ago? That certainly ranks as “assholic” behavior. Anyone? Apology is freeing as well, but much cleaner to the soul than just bitching, yes? ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/26 "2000-07-28T06:07:30Z")
Anthacrite, You know I have a lot of respect for you. I think you are a kind person. I also appreciate when people send you annonymous email and wont reveal who they are. I hope the person that felt it’s okay to send such dribble is found out. I am being haunted by one right now as we speak. I don’t know who it is, but it proves we have many assholes in our world. ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/27 "2000-07-28T06:26:17Z")
Anthracite, I forgot to add that I never had any ill feelings towards you. Your apology is not needed, but I will take it as a kind gesture. Yes I had my board breakdown but never once did I ever feel you were being mean by being an asshole. I need you to know that! ---
**Author:** ![speakeasy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@speakeasy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/speakeasy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/28 "2000-07-28T06:38:37Z")
> [@](#): > > Apology is freeing as well, but much cleaner to the soul than just bitching, yes? Nope. ---
**Author:** ![Lexicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ac8455/32.png) [@Lexicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lexicon)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/29 "2000-07-28T07:06:12Z")
See, this is the sort of shit I’m asking about. What with the anonymity? Can’t you just come right out and call the cumcatcher out into the light? When I asked, techchick said it wasn’t about anyone in particular, and I believe her. I just thought it sounded that way. And now Anthracite, whom I have never had the pleasure of meeting, seems to very upset at some very specific people. Who is it? If it’s none of my business, why did you even post anything? If you won’t tell, why not? To sum up: Who and what the hell are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![FreakFreely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/48db29/32.png) [@FreakFreely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FreakFreely)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/30 "2000-07-28T07:11:59Z")
[hijack] Lexi, get your ass into chat NOW! Don’t make me drag yo ass! You too tech, if you can make it. [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/31 "2000-07-28T08:27:26Z")
Lexicon said: > [@](#): > > What with the anonymity? I wish I knew on my end, but the person now knows I have the IP address and have pretty much narrowed it down to one of three cities. They claim to not be on the boards (in subsequent emails) but emailed me initially telling me I am a bitch. Well I normally wouldn’t post an email of this nature but this particular person wont tell me who they are, so since it’s not a person willing to tell me who they are the email now becomes public knowledge, here’s the first email I recieved: > [@](#): > > man, what is wrong with you? Do you get off being a bitch or what? All I > ever see on SDMP is you bitching about everyone and everything… how long > do you think they are going to put up with this? > People get tired of it. > Get a life. Get happy, do something! This is an asshole in disguise. I wish I knew who it was and why they decided to email me with this comment. To whom ever sent me this email. Here’s the deal. I asked you if you are on the boards and you said you weren’t. However many things have happened in the last 6 hours or so that lead me to believe that you are. It was too convenient that you emailed me about this when you did. Oh and you know what I am talking about. So to who ever you are, I am bringing this to the public eye because I do believe you are a poster here. You have an insider view of certain things that have transpired in the last hours and are working behind the scenes to piss me off. This behavior is rude and mean. I would never annonymously email someone I had a problem with. I think you know that. So, publicly I am asking you to get out from behind your mask and reveal your poster name. I am not asking that you do this publicly, I am just asking that you come clean with me and get it over with in email. I sit here and think, they are just trying to get my goat. Cool, I can deal with that, but it’s just a pussy thing when you hide behind an email. At least I bring out my bitches of life, I have a problem with you but you obviously are too much of a piss-ant to reveal exactly who you are. In short, an asshole! ---
**Author:** ![Danielinthewolvesden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/32 "2000-07-28T08:38:55Z")
My name is Daniel, and I am an asshole. There, I admit it. I am superiour, smug and condesending at times. I also type like shit. But I don’t do any of the things on your list, TC. Umm, TC, have you considered a little relaxation therapy? Perhaps a long walk, folowed by a massage and a hot bath? You seem to be quite a bit on edge, irritable, etc. What would the PIT do without you, girl? So relax. Try some St, Johns Wort or something. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/33 "2000-07-28T08:51:47Z")
I wanna say that this is in reaction to the posts by Una and Techie. I do not expect to have any hurt feelings, any severe drama, soap-opera endings, or suicides. If you don’t wanna know the way I feel, don’t read it. Firstly, I am an asshole. Actually, I don’t really think I’m an asshole, I’m just extremely forward, I speak my mind the way _I_ see it. It’s all about opinions and points of view. Techie, You and I were cool, in fact, **real** cool at one time. Your behavior, be it a “board breakdown” or not was way over the top. What’s worse is that it was unprovoked assholism, IMO, cause things were fine between you and I until it turned into “GaWd kicked me from chat and I’m **SO** pissed right now!”. Then it turned into “denial assholism” whereby you decided that the whole world was lying to you about what had **actually** happened. Then there was the “martyring/pitying asshole”. If you’re leaving, that’s fine, but don’t lay the guilt on the boards about it. And after all that bullshit assholism, drama, and pity-parties, it only took you **2 weeks(?!?!??!!?)**, two fucking weeks, to get over your shit and come back to the boards like nothing ever happened? That’s an asshole for you. Then you return to chat only **3 weeks!** , 3 fucking weeks after the original “I’m never coming back to chat, and I’ve uninstalled my copy of IRC ::Sniffle, snifflE::”. And that was only 1 week after someone pulled the “Silo haikus” stunt(which, BTW, I had no knowledge of happening), on the 3FMB and you re-affirmed your position of not **ever** wanting to come back. The above does **NOT** mean I hate you, despise you, or otherwise hold any level of ill-will towards you. It also does not mean that I think you should leave the boards, or chat at all, just that it’s gonna take some time for you to build back at least **SOME** level of trust with me. I expect you not to be terribly pleased by what I’ve said, but you asked, and I answered. I was getting terribly tired of avoiding you on the boards for all this BS, and not having you understand why I’m so pissed at you. Flame on dearie! -Sam ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/34 "2000-07-28T08:59:29Z")
Danielinthewolvesden, I am simply pointing out that there are assholes in this world. Apparently I have one that is attempting to give me shit without revealing his/her identity. That said I am quite mellow compared to where I was a few weeks ago. What I don’t enjoy are the things I said in my OP and now the annonymous person calling me a bitch. I don’t think many people would enjoy this type of attention. I bring it up because I find it rude and uncalled for. If I have a problem with someone I don’t hide behind an email address but make it clear that it’s me. I don’t think I am being a bitch by saying the things I did in the OP. The Pit is a place to vent, I am utilizing it as such. I haven’t focused all my energies on The Pit, I do have many posts elsewhere on this board. Dancing Tampons is an example. I also am focusing on the Vegas trip and the SD People pages. I don’t get it. I bitch about assholes and then get a bitch from an annonymous person and people think I am focusing on bitching. Well, I am constantly looking for MPSIMS threads that are fun and inviting. I am not solely on the boards to post here. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/35 "2000-07-28T09:04:35Z")
and I promise, if I have something to say, I won’t send you E-mails Anon. -Sam ---
**Author:** ![Danielinthewolvesden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/36 "2000-07-28T09:54:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by techchick68 \* > \*\*Danielinthewolvesden, > I am simply pointing out that there are assholes in this world. Apparently I have one that is attempting to give me shit without revealing his/her identity. > \*\* Well, there is no doubt, that an anonymous asshole is also both a moral & physical coward- that being far worse than an asshole in my book. However, cowards are not worth mouse shit. But- I did not say that you were not justifed, just that you sound over tense, and I am concerned. Really. So will the sniveling little coward stick his tail up so we know who it is? ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/37 "2000-07-28T10:00:37Z")
Gawd, Just got done posting and here I am seeing your post. I take a while on these things so pardon me in advance. Here’s the situation as I see it. I am happy with your honesty, but I hope you would be **totally** honest with me. If you are self-proclaimed asshole? Cool. That’s your description of yourself, not mine. I do disagree with you on some certain issues. I freaked out on those and the circumstances that happened after that. But regardless of my friendship with another poster in here that you despise, I find it difficult knowing that you have participated in some jabs about me in chat. I don’t want to bring this up, but I know it happened. There are ears all over that place, these things are posted, emailed and talked about by people all over the place. I don’t expect anyone to like my friend because I do, what I do ask is that it’s time to let it go. (damn this thread has taken a turn I don’t want it to but it will be this now I 'spose). Okay, so I have a friend some of you hate. Good for you. But is it really appropriate to PM me and explain to me that I am basically a loser because of it. GaWd, I wish I had logged that so you can know where I am going with this. At that time you made me feel like the biggest shit on earth for my friendship with someone, something I have dealt with all my life. When I got kicked out by your name, I went ape shit. I understand that. I realize I went overboard but given the conversation you and I had that night it seemed a little too convenient _at the time._ Between that and all the posts that people rang in with, I didn’t know what to think. Okay so I came back after 2 weeks. Shame me, please. I am not the first to do this. I started helping with the SD People pages and felt I needed to get my posting privis back. It made sense plus I didn’t want to puss out on the Vegas trip. Like I said in my email, which you got, the trip shouldn’t suffer: > [@](#): > > “I didn’t feel it was fair to the trip to put my hissy fit in the way of the trip.” Okay, so I thought that after three weeks or so I could handle the chat room. I went in there with the intention of bringing myself back to the apparent friendships I had when I left. Well, I was mostly ignored, I assume because mostly having to do with my friendship with a particular person, my bitch about the chat room or whatever it is. I had at least one thoughtful email from a admin/mod during that time that asked me not to leave. If I must, I would be missed. This gave me pause and after offering to work on the SD people pages, I rethought all of my issues here on the boards. > [@](#): > > And after all that bullshit assholism, drama, and pity-parties, it only took you 2 weeks(?!?!??!!?), two fucking weeks, to get over your shit and come back to the boards like nothing ever happened? That’s an asshole for you. I just explained it. Hey, there are people over here that seem to have some sense of forgiveness regardless of my rants. Well, after this last episode of things that have happened, I am saddened by events that seem to stem around me and my returning to the boards and to chat. I have been accused of being a bitch, creating things to focus attention on me, to “tippy-toe around me due to my psychological state,” then you state: > [@](#): > > And after all that bullshit assholism, drama, and pity-parties, it only took you 2 weeks(?!?!??!!?), two fucking weeks, to get over your shit and come back to the boards like nothing ever happened? That’s an asshole for you. Well, fine, believe what you want to believe. I do know for fact you and a certain person have sat there in chat and have ripped me an asshole or two. So I guess I deserve being called an asshole when people rip you another asshole. The thing is, this whole thread was not started out of any of this shit at all, I am just responding to your post now. I don’t get it. You call me an asshole for being hurt over events I thought were done to harm me. You call me an asshole for coming back after two weeks of time of from the boards. Yet the entire time you and a certain other person are making fun of me behind my back. I have never said a mean thing about anyone behind their backs. I may have expressed my pain and disgust over it all in private phone conversations but I don’t publicly flog you or the other person involved. So don’t tell me I am an asshole. Now you can, because you choose to bring this to the public eye and I feel it’s important for me to tell my side of things. My world is not rocked by your hatred of me. And fine, if you don’t want to to go to Vegas because I am there, don’t go. But I am sick of you and the other person berating me in public over an incident that happened a month ago. Get over it, stop putting me down. If you hate me, dislike me or whatever, FINE. All I ask is that you quit your public announcements over what a loser you think I am. I have to add, I always try to look at the bright side of things, despite my perceived pitiful life which seems to be the focus in chat and now annonymous emails I am getting since I approached someone. ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/38 "2000-07-28T10:07:45Z")
I forgot to add: You mentioned trust. > [@](#): > > just that it’s gonna take some time for you to build back at least SOME level of trust with me. I don’t need your “trust” GaWd. I never did you wrong. I admit to accusing you of kicking me out when it was not so, according to others. But if I have to gain your “trust” again then it’s not worth it to me. I am sorry, but this is being completely and totally honest. I didn’t kill your cat, your dog or your mother. This is a ludicrous statement that pisses me off. What about the trust I had in you before, now knowing what you and a certain other person have said in public about me? There is no room for you to discuss trust levels with me unless it involves Windows NT. So, if you expect I will get down on my knees and beg for your forgiveness and ask you to “trust me again” you are way out there. Hey, just being honest. ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/39 "2000-07-28T10:39:53Z")
Danielinthewolvesden, Sorry, I meant to get back to your post sooner. Anyhow, thank you for your concern. The thing is, this thread evolved to a point I didn’t think it would. I was making an innocent rant about poopoo in my life and it got twisted. These things happen. I can take the heat and will stand up for myself because I believe in myself. I don’t consider myself an asshole and I do pity those that are. It makes me sad that so many would rather put you in “your place” than acknowledge you as a living, breathing, thinking, human being. Anyhow, the annonymous email has me baffled. Luckily those free emails people send out aren’t completely free of identity. If this person emails me back I will call the ISP involved. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2000, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020/40 "2000-07-28T11:31:46Z")
OK, you’ve totally missed the fucking point, like usual. No big surprise. First off, you seem to think that this has something to do with your “Certain friend”. I’m not sure why. He/she has absolutely no bearing on my feelings of you. This is **ALL** about Liz and her behavior. I don’t give a fuck if you’re friends with OJ, if I have opinions of you, be certain that they’ve nothing to do with OJ. Secondly, If you think it’s my job/responsibility/duty not to talk about how I feel about you, and think I could give a fuck about your lil “ears all over that place”, then you’re wrong. Thirdly, I don’t hate your little “special friend”, as told many times over, and I don’t hate you. I also never told you in **any** PM, chatroom, or E-mail that I thought you were a loser for being his friend. I **did** tell you, as protector of said “special friend”, to get him to shape up or ship the hell out. I certainly wish you had logged that conversation, as you most surely have it wrong from what memory recollects. > [@](#): > > Okay so I came back after 2 weeks. Shame me, please. I am not the first to do this. Yes, shame on you. Also, shame on any other asshole who thinks they’re important enough to make a production(and I do mean production), out of leaving. **Anyone** who thinks that behavior is ok is not ok in my book. Once again, I could give a fuck if your friend is the **Easter fucking Bunny** , if I have a problem with you, I promise you…it’s not your friend. You’ve most likely been iugnored in chat(I hate to bring chat into the pit, but for now, I think it’s necessary to cross the two over), because you burned alot of people a few weeks ago, and it ain’t right. You pulled some shit on supposed friends that was inexcusable to me and inexcusable to **OTHERS** who were involved. Trust me, I’m not the only one. > [@](#): > > Well, fine, believe what you want to believe. I do know for fact you and a certain person have sat there in chat and have ripped me an asshole or two. So I guess I deserve being called an asshole when people rip you another asshole. And? I’m searching for a point… Look, you ain’t a **victim**. Get over it. If I’m talking to somebody, in an open chatroom, I’d say that it wasn’t terribly behind your back. If you were there, and we were talking about it, you’d get the brunt of it. I _AM_ allowed to speak my mind, and I will continue to do so whenever I feel like it, “little ears” be damned. Wanna tear me an asshole? Go for it. Once you get over realizing that I’m not the bad guy here, and I’m not the only one with these opinions, maybe you’ll see things the way they truely are.Not saying something “behind someone’s back”, as you put it, does not make you a good person. It only means you think what you will not say. I’m pissed at you, your actions, and your behavior, and treatment like this from a “friend” is not something I need, nor will I tolerate it. > [@](#): > > My world is not rocked by your hatred of me. Once again Liz, you’ve read words and seen right through their meaning and read what you wish to read. I can’t say enough times to you that I do not hate you. Never have I hated you, or your “friend”, and I’ve even said it many times over. Hate is not something I can feel for someone I pity. > [@](#): > > …despite my perceived pitiful life which seems to be the focus in chat and now annonymous emails I am getting since I approached someone. It’s funny to me Liz, you can’t even see that you post so much negativity that people can’t help but wonder **HOW terrible life must be for you**. All that you spew forth is negative(you’re right, except for the tampon thing, I know…), lately, and it worries some people. Daniel doesn’t really know you and he wants to know how bad things are…Does that make sense to you? I suppose not. Oh! Late-breaking revelations! > [@](#): > > I don’t need your “trust” GaWd. I never did you wrong. I admit to accusing you of kicking me out when it was not so, according to others. If you think behavior from a friend like yours is acceptable, and not worthy of taking exception to, then you’re right…you do not need my trust, or approval, or anything else, and that tells me the you never were worthy of friendship to begin with. I don’t really care what you’ve heard me saying about you. Whatever it was, it was my opinion, and I stand fast by it. You wronged me(no, you didn’t kill my animals or mother), but you did act in an abominable way, and yes, it has everything to do with trust and friendship. > [@](#): > > So, if you expect I will get down on my knees and beg for your forgiveness and ask you to “trust me again” you are way out there. Hey, just being honest. For the record, I’ve never, EVER asked you to beg to for forgiveness, **or** justification in my posts, or my chats. I don’t care, you’re really not that important a fixture in my life. You’ve caused too much greif on the boards, and in chat, personally. With a world **full** of whiners and drama queens, there’s zero room for you. Get over yourself, really now. And I suppose after that that I can consider this a closed book. That’s totally fine. I’ve been professional as possible in all fora, except for this thread, and I will continue to do so, but don’t ever think that your little ears will **ever** discourage me from being frank. -Sam [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assholes/27020.md?page=3)