# Assistant Director of Corrections and Alabama Inmate disappear on way to Court \[update: They have been captured\] {2022-05-02}

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**Created:** [May 2, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830 "2022-05-02T18:41:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/141 "2022-05-16T02:41:03Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> I’m disappointed that you set up “they wanted to make a clean getaway” and nobody took the bait.

Good one!

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/142 "2022-05-16T07:02:57Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> I can see it now: Amy Schumer in her first dramatic role as Vicky White. And in his acting debut, Aaron Rodgers as Casey White.

The name of the movie? _White Flight._

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/143 "2022-05-16T10:41:29Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> The name of the movie? _White Flight._

Thread winner.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/144 "2022-05-16T13:34:52Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> And in his acting debut, Aaron Rodgers as Casey White.

I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed the resemblance.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/145 "2022-05-16T13:49:08Z")

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Nah, you want the big name - Tom Cruise (he has experience playing _much_ bigger men, as in the Jack Reacher movies).

Speaking of resemblances, I was struck by how much juvenile detention center officer Victoria Tune (charged with having aided three juvenile offenders to escape, with all eventually being caught at a Houston motel) resembles Charles Starkweather heartthrob Caril Ann Fugate.

> **[Louisiana juvenile inmates who escaped with security officer have been...](https://www.ktvu.com/news/3-escaped-teens-juvenile-detention-guard-who-aided-them-all-caught)**
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> Three inmates who escaped a Louisiana detention center Saturday morning with the help of a security officer, have all been caught and taken int

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/146 "2022-07-12T18:56:37Z")

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Another murder bumpdate: Casey White has now been charged with [felony murder](https://www.al.com/news/2022/07/casey-white-charged-with-murder-of-vicky-white-during-escape.html)

She committed [suicide](https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/12/us/vicky-white-casey-white-911-audio-thursday/); it’ll be interesting to see how they connect the dots to a murder charge.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/147 "2022-07-12T19:11:03Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> She committed [suicide](https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/12/us/vicky-white-casey-white-911-audio-thursday/); it’ll be interesting to see how they connect the dots to a murder charge.

They were both participants in a crime. A death occurred during the course of that crime, as a direct result of their participation in that crime. Dots connected.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/148 "2022-07-12T19:14:12Z")

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If the charges stick, hopefully there’s an abundance of evidence that somehow make for a strong case. I’d hate to see people use this case in an attempt to charge people that happened to be in the vicinity of someone that killed themselves.

Also, I’m looking at the statute mentioned in the article. Not being a lawyer, I’m not sure how they intend to show that he caused her death. Besides, the statute says “Under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life” and “he or she recklessly engages in conduct which creates a grave risk of death to a person other than himself”.  
Could his lawyer argue that it was the officers surrounding their vehicle that were creating a situation involving extreme indifference to human life? And, therefore it’s them that should be charged?  
Even if they can argue that he’s responsible for her death, the next part of that law states “A person does not commit murder under subdivisions (a)(1) or (a)(2) of this section if he or she was moved to act by a sudden heat of passion caused by provocation recognized by law, and before there had been a reasonable time for the passion to cool and for reason to reassert itself”

Would that exempt him from it?

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/149 "2022-07-12T21:28:27Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I’d hate to see people use this case in an attempt to charge people that happened to be in the vicinity of someone that killed themselves.

That’s exactly what felony murder is. If you are engaged in a felony, and somebody dies, you are charged with their death, even if you are merely in the vicinity when they die.

(A classic example is the getaway driver to the burglary being charged for the murder of somebody inside the house where the crime is being carried out. Or the police shooting one co-conspirator and the other one being charged with murder for the death)

> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I’m not sure how they intend to show that he caused her death.

If it’s felony murder, they won’t need to show that. They will need to show that he committed a felony and that she died while he did it. They don’t need to show that he actually caused her to die.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/150 "2022-07-12T22:57:26Z")

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There must be more to it than that, right? One person can’t be held responsible for anyone (or everyone) that dies while they’re committing a crime. I have to assume, at the very least, you have to show that the death was, in some way, related to the crime. If I rob a bank and someone walking past happens to get hit by a car, I assume that’s not my fault.

> [@Moriarty](#):
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> A classic example is the getaway driver to the burglary being charged for the murder of somebody inside the house where the crime is being carried out.

That part I (for the sake of the discussion) understand. But this is different. Imagine one person goes inside to rob the place while the getaway driver shoots himself in the head. Is the robber charged with the murder of the getaway driver?

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/151 "2022-07-12T23:10:34Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> That part I (for the sake of the discussion) understand. But this is different. Imagine one person goes inside to rob the place while the getaway driver shoots himself in the head. Is the robber charged with the murder of the getaway driver?

Yes. Or even if the driver keels over from a heart attack. Felony Murder is a catch all charge. And the courts have upheld it for decades with the precedent being don’t like it, don’t commit a felony.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/152 "2022-07-13T00:14:51Z")

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Casey White is already facing a capital murder trial in connection to the 2015 killing of Connie Ridgeway.

At the time of his escape, Casey White was already serving a 75-year prison sentence for a crime spree in 2015 that included a home invasion, carjacking and a police chase, the US Marshals Service said.

The new charges won’t make much difference. He’s already facing life in prison. Unfortunately White only has a limited nunber of years before old age kills him.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/153 "2022-07-13T03:13:48Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> There must be more to it than that, right? One person can’t be held responsible for anyone (or everyone) that dies while they’re committing a crime.

Nope. There are indeed jurisdictions where that very thing happens.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/154 "2022-07-13T03:22:12Z")

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The examples of “felony murder” mentioned by **Moriarty** and **pkbites** above are the kinds of outlandish stories that make headlines.

If I were on a jury in such a case – or on a jury an _any_ case – I would take my duty _very_ seriously. But I would consider that to include considering, with great restraint, if I should vote to nullify a charge that really grates against my conscience.

If I were on the jury in a case like one of these, I might very well vote to nullify. I could not support a “catch all charge”, as **pkbites** called it, if I thought the charge was beyond reason.

ETA: This is one of the reasons we have juries.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/155 "2024-10-20T20:39:10Z")

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Bumping this because a new true crime documentary (not a movie/dramatization, an actual documentary, with the people involved in the case) covering this recently came out on Netflix. Apparently it came out on September 9th, but I just noticed it now.  
When I saw the thumbnail with her picture, I thought I already saw it, but I believe it was just this thread I was thinking of.

mods, if you think this needs to be spun off into it’s own topic, that’s fine. Here’s a link back to the [original thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830) and a link to the [wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_White_prison_escape) on the incident.

> **[Watch Jailbreak: Love on the Run | Netflix Official Site](https://www.netflix.com/title/81654970?tctx=0%2C0%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2CVideo%3A81654970%2C)**
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> In this gripping documentary, an Alabama corrections officer falls in love with a man awaiting trial for murder and risks it all to help him escape.

> **[Jailbreak: Love on the Run (2024) ⭐ 6.4 | Documentary, Crime](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt33058713/)**
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> 1h 28m | TV-MA

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assistant-director-of-corrections-and-alabama-inmate-disappear-on-way-to-court-update-they-have-been-captured-2022-05-02/963830/156 "2024-10-20T21:32:04Z")

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I liked the documentary. Super interesting situation.

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