# Assume that Trump colluded with Russia **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 2, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-that-trump-colluded-with-russia/808060 "2018-02-02T20:16:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 77
**Author:** ![proudfootz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9e5f3/32.png) [@proudfootz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/proudfootz)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-that-trump-colluded-with-russia/808060/77 "2018-02-06T22:16:12Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Yes to both. (The ‘Balzac quote’ ploy was pretty poorly-handled by the poster.) Unlike the “you’re a damn Commie… er. Putin puppet” ploy? > [@](#): > > The message being sold by that poster is rather unsubtle: ‘both your parties are corrupt and no one cares about your concerns, and your vote is worthless, and historically your vote has been worthless and voting has been futile and pointless, so you may has well check out and stop voting and just let the corrupt elites do whatever they want.’ How you got that out what I actually wrote must require a level of pretzel logic that would seem to be superhuman. But you coudn’t quote me saying anything crazy like that, so you pretend to interpret my ‘real’ message for the benefit of those not quick enough to accuse me of being a Kremlin spy. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-that-trump-colluded-with-russia/808060)._