# Assume Trump is found guilty of some felony **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938 "2023-03-09T17:22:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/41 "2023-03-18T12:57:04Z")
CNN reports that law enforcement agencies are making plans. > **[City, state and federal law enforcement agencies meet about how to prep for...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/17/politics/law-enforcement-prepare-possible-trump-indictment/index.html)** > > Meetings have been going on throughout the week between city, state and federal law enforcement agencies in New York City about how to prepare for a possible indictment of former President Donald Trump as early as next week, multiple sources told... ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/42 "2023-03-18T13:24:35Z")
In another article, CNN does confirm Trump posted it: > **[Trump says he expects to be arrested Tuesday | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/18/politics/donald-trump-manhattan-da-arrest-protests/index.html)** > > Former President Donald Trump said Saturday he expects to be arrested in connection with the investigation by the Manhattan District Attorney next week and called for protests as a result. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/43 "2023-03-18T13:27:51Z")
And more possible storm clouds gathering: > **[Trump and his family failed to report nearly $300,000-worth of gifts from...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/17/politics/trump-gifts-democrats-report/?dicbo=v2-1ac53386881bfbd7dec0d191eb4610dd&iid=ob_mobile_article_footer_expansion)** > > Donald Trump and his family failed to report nearly $300,000-worth of gifts they received from foreign governments between 2017 and 2020, including a "larger-than-life-sized painting" of the former president that may currently reside at his... ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/44 "2023-03-18T13:50:51Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Recently posted at [NewYorkTimes.com](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/09/nyregion/trump-potential-criminal-charges-bragg.html): > > > [@](#): > > > > The case against the former president hinges on an untested and therefore risky legal theory involving a complex interplay of laws, all amounting to a low-level felony. If Mr. Trump were ultimately convicted, he would face a maximum sentence of four years, though prison time would not be mandatory. Which case? There are at least dozens of felonies that he’s already known to have committed, and plenty more that seem pretty likely. Some of them are quite straightforward, and some of them go as far as a potential death penalty. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Breaking down the text of that portion of the Fourteenth Amendment into numbered elements, which elements apply unmistakably, unambiguously, and undebatably to the America-hating fuckstick? No person shall 4. Or hold any office, civil or military, under the United states, 5. Who, having previously taken an oath, 7. As an officer of the United States 10. To support the Constitution of the United States, 11. Shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same 12 might also apply: I haven’t seen any hard evidence that he gave aid or comfort to our enemies after he took his oath of office, but I’d be quite surprised if he hadn’t. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/45 "2023-03-18T13:52:25Z")
Somehow, I doubt that he considers the office of the president to be _under_ the United States. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/46 "2023-03-18T13:58:25Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > 12 might also apply: I haven’t seen any hard evidence that he gave aid or comfort to our enemies after he took his oath of office, but I’d be quite surprised if he hadn’t. He did try to extort Zelinskyy, withholding desperately needed funds to defend itself against Russia. Russia is clearly a hostile country to the USA. Trump claims to be Putins friend, when in fact, Trump is his patsy. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/47 "2023-03-18T14:34:53Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > CNN reports that law enforcement agencies are making plans. > > [https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/17/politics/law-enforcement-prepare-possible-trump-indictment/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/17/politics/law-enforcement-prepare-possible-trump-indictment/index.html) [![](https://i.redd.it/as0hja7cugoa1.jpg) ](https://i.redd.it/as0hja7cugoa1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/48 "2023-03-18T15:53:01Z")
I’d like to see him banned from using a phone or getting on social media, _like every other imprisoned felon_. Let him convey his deep messages thru PAB jr, or Mike Pillow, who would probably voluntarily accompany his god to whatever facility he’s assigned to, like Hesse accompanied Hitler after the putsch. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/49 "2023-03-19T07:22:56Z")
_Hess_, if it’s not too much trouble. It’s difficult enough to get kids to read _Siddhartha_ as it is, without misleading them into associating Hermann Hesse with Nazism. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/50 "2023-03-19T14:44:39Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Siddhartha Maybe they would read it wondering when Hitler was going to show up, just like reading _Man and Superman_ and looking for Clark Kent 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/51 "2023-03-20T03:14:34Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I’d like to see him banned from using a phone or getting on social media, like every other imprisoned felon. I’d like for him to get a fair trial, if indicted, and that might result in conviction, or might not. As for the charges, we don’t yet know what they will be. It may be something where the normal first offence punishment is a suspended sentence with probation. As for phones, yes, inmates are banned from having them, but the powerful or clever can evade the ban. An early example: > **[Capone tax evasion trial: Jury finds Chicago mobster guilty on 5 of 23 counts](https://themobmuseum.org/blog/capone-tax-evasion-trial-jury-finds-chicago-mobster-guilty-on-5-of-22-counts/)** > > Part 2: Judge slaps Capone with heavy sentence for tax violations I’m on the fence whether adult inmates should have phones. Are there any countries where prisoners are allowed phones? Others being treated poorly is no reason to treat Trump poorly. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/52 "2023-03-20T23:08:40Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Are there any countries where prisoners are allowed phones? The US is one. Here is a jail in Union County, SC that allows (or allowed) prisoners access to cell phones. [https://www.prisonphonejustice.org/news/2019/may/3/cell-phones-sold-commissary-south-carolina-jail/](https://www.prisonphonejustice.org/news/2019/may/3/cell-phones-sold-commissary-south-carolina-jail/) > **[Upstate jail lets inmates use cell phones](https://www.wspa.com/news/upstate-jail-lets-inmates-use-cell-phones/)** > > An Upstate jail is putting cell phones into the hands of its inmates.  The phones can only be used between 8-10 PM and have no internet access. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/53 "2023-03-22T02:38:48Z")
Thanks. Everyone read that article, it’s actual much better thought out than it seems. How it plays out in practice remains to be seen. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/54 "2024-06-03T17:19:50Z")
Washington state is tough on crime: those convicted of a felony are not allowed on the ballot. The law was passed in 1865, then modified in 1959 and 2016. Any voter can file a challenge once the ballot is certified, which typically happens after the convention. The Secretary of State, when asked if he’s sure this applies to federal races says that’s for the courts to decide. Is it legitimate for a state to disallow the election of hardened criminals - which I’ll define as convicted of over 33 felonies - to elected office? I think it is. Ohio is contemplating filing deadlines that the Trump campaign apparently broke. > **[Plot twist: WA has a law against felons running for office](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/plot-twist-for-trump-wa-has-a-law-against-felons-running-for-office/)** > > Local Republicans should think about dropping Donald Trump from the fall ballot. Or else a little-known state law that dates back decades might do it for them. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/55 "2024-06-03T17:58:39Z")
Trump doesn’t really have a chance to win Washington anyway. It’s a pretty solid blue state. I still vote because I think it’s important but I know that it’s probably not going to be close. In the last election Biden won with 58.4% of the vote versus 39% for Trump. In terms of actual votes, it was 2,369,612 to 1,584,651. You’d think it would be a wider gap but huge areas of sparsely-populated areas in Washington lean very far to the right. Still not very close though, and I doubt that will be any different this time. I wonder if any battlefield states have such a provision. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/56 "2024-06-03T19:18:00Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > You’d think it would be a wider gap but huge areas of sparsely-populated areas in Washington lean very far to the right. Yeah, geographically, most of Washington state resembles Idaho politically. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938/57 "2024-06-03T21:30:44Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > In the last election Biden won with 58.4% of the vote versus 39% for Trump 39% for Trump. That’s still disgusting. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assume-trump-is-found-guilty-of-some-felony/980938.md?page=2)