# Assuming Palin runs, how likely is it that she could win?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 11, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045 "2011-06-11T00:09:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2011, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/201 "2011-07-10T22:39:02Z")

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I’d guess Palin’s earning potential as a speaker will be proportional to her gilfiness, and will diminish as it does.

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**Author:** ![Oldeb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@Oldeb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oldeb)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/202 "2011-07-10T23:35:44Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> MOST half-term governors. I suspect that Palin is already pulling down more than the vast majority of ex-veeps. I doubt most governors can compete with her on income - ignoring the already incredibly wealthy like Romney and the like.

She makes less per event than Gore does. But I’m willing to place him as an exception. Gore’s speaking fee is currently higher than W. Bush’s. ($175k to $150k) She’s at the same level as Cheney. ($75k-$100k) I have no idea what Quayle is getting. But yes, I agree that she’s well ahead of any governor, full term or not.

I think that what she has now isn’t sustainable and she knows it. Eventually she’ll have to show some accomplishment to keeping getting high paid speaking engagements. A VP slot would keep her going until she dies.

And I don’t think it’s really about the money as anything more than a measure of how well everyone loves her anymore. She certainly quit in Alaska to chase after the money, but she’s got more than enough now. Now it’s just a means of telling how popular she is. And _that_ is what she really cares about more than anything. She’ll certainly keep chasing money deals, but not because she needs it or even has any plans to spend it.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/203 "2011-07-11T00:13:05Z")

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Besides, her trying for the VP slot would seem anticlimactic. That’s what she ran for (and lost) before, and now she’s not even setting her sights any higher?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/204 "2011-07-11T03:41:21Z")

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Palin said today that "the field is not set’. That would suggest that she is going to throw he bra into the ring.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/205 "2011-07-11T03:57:12Z")

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> [@Oldeb](#):
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> She makes less per event than Gore does. But I’m willing to place him as an exception. Gore’s speaking fee is currently higher than W. Bush’s. ($175k to $150k) She’s at the same level as Cheney. ($75k-$100k) I have no idea what Quayle is getting. But yes, I agree that she’s well ahead of any governor, full term or not.

I dunno, let’s see how much money Schwarzenegger can make at Comic-Con.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/206 "2011-07-11T05:20:10Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Palin said today that "the field is not set’. That would suggest that she is going to throw he bra into the ring.

I’d pay a dollar for that.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/207 "2011-07-11T11:27:40Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Palin said today that "the field is not set’. That would suggest that she is going to throw he bra into the ring.

Her chances for the nomination are already sagging pitifully. No need to make it worse.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/208 "2011-07-11T20:04:28Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> > [@gonzomax](#):
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> > Palin said today that "the field is not set’. That would suggest that she is going to throw he bra into the ring.
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> Her chances for the nomination are already sagging pitifully. No need to make it worse.

If they’re sagging, I think she could get a lift from a discrete surgeon.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/209 "2011-07-11T21:32:03Z")

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Unless that was a subtle pun that went right over my head, you probably meant “discreet”, there, not “discrete”. I used to make that mistake all the time, too.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/210 "2011-07-11T21:51:40Z")

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What are you talking about? I didn’t make a mistake. That is the right form to have used.

(Please give me two minutes to make the appropriate changes to Wikipedia.)

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/211 "2011-07-22T21:33:38Z")

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The question I have is, if she runs, what are her chances of winning the Republican nomination?

If, somehow, she gets nominated, I don’t see her winning - she strikes me as the kind of person moderate Republicans would turn away from in droves (shades of Walter Mondale in 1984, but in the other direction?).

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/212 "2011-07-22T22:02:12Z")

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The people who would have voted for her like Bachmann better at this point, i don’t see how she can win them back.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2011, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/213 "2011-07-22T22:44:55Z")

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Her hagiogaphic movie continues to get [spectacular](http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/771245638/) reviews.

I am monitoring said reviews with interest.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/214 "2011-07-23T02:50:28Z")

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Chances of Palin winning? Well RERCOVERING against the rest of the voters in America. No chance at all.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/215 "2011-07-23T16:01:56Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Chances of Palin winning? Well RERCOVERING against the rest of the voters in America. No chance at all.

Palin: Inspiring gibberish since 2008.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/216 "2011-07-23T18:15:03Z")

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It’s not gibberish. He’s saying that **Recovering Republican** would vote for her, but that everyone else in the country would vote against her. The statement may not be true, but it’s sensical.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/217 "2011-07-23T19:50:06Z")

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Okay, this is the second time in the same thread that you tried to correctify me with patently false information. As soon as I’m done editing Wiki for the SECOND time, you will see that Gonzo’s statement was fliberty gibberish.

Actually, wait. I don’t even have to do that. Since you found Gonzo’s statement coherent, you therefore found mine to be false. Because mine is false, yet presented as a true statement, it is \*ipso liquid soapo \*gibberish; therefore, as in the Vice Presidential/role in the Senate statement and a host of others, the statement _was_ withing the scope of factuality, and therefore indisputably correct.  
So there.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/218 "2011-07-25T00:40:43Z")

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RECOVERING represents a slice of 20 percent die hard Repubs who would vote for Nixon or Bush 2 today. They exist . There are actually several on this board. They defend Palin. They defend Bachmann. They lose credibility, but they really do believe, with a religious fervor that overcomes logic, facts and sense. They are totally unreachable and after saying stupid shit over and over, go to sleep with a satisfied feeling that they educated many people that day.

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**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/219 "2011-07-25T11:03:15Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> RECOVERING represents a slice of 20 percent die hard Repubs who would vote for Nixon or Bush 2 today. They exist . There are actually several on this board. They defend Palin. They defend Bachmann. They lose credibility, but they really do believe, with a religious fervor that overcomes logic, facts and sense. They are totally unreachable and after saying stupid shit over and over, go to sleep with a satisfied feeling that they educated many people that day.

Wow, guy, I haven’t posted in this thread since the 10th, not sure why you are going all nutty about me here.

I thought I’ve made myself pretty clear. I’m not religious. I’m actually someone bothered by the strength the religious right has.

But, yeah, you might have a point.

Nixon’s rotting corpse would probably do a better job than Obama.

Bush-2 would do a better job than Obama.  
Seriously, the real problem is no matter how bad “The One” screws things up, you are among the 20% who gets up here and defends him.

We are at the highest consistant unemployment since the Great Depression, we are tettering on the brink of default, and companies are abandoning this country like rats off a sinking ship. Gasoline is at record highs. And you refuse to hold the “Worst Affirmative Action Hire Ever” accountable for any of it. No, no, it’s always someone else’s fault.

In 2008, you ran on “Hope”. Well, in 2012, there is no Hope left, so all you have is Fear. Obama is a screw-up, “Ooooh, Palin is stupid” “Oooooh, Bachmann is scary”. You can’t really defend your guy, so you have to attack anyone who might oppose him, even if they aren’t running.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assuming-palin-runs-how-likely-is-it-that-she-could-win/585045/220 "2011-07-25T16:56:22Z")

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The problem, RR, is that you don’t understand the reasons why people voted for Obama in 2008. So there’s a good chance you’re misunderstanding the reasons why people will vote in 2012.

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