# At a high level, Individual-ONE's policies are fine **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 14, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-a-high-level-individual-ones-policies-are-fine/849457 "2020-03-14T02:19:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-a-high-level-individual-ones-policies-are-fine/849457/1 "2020-03-14T02:19:55Z")
I was kind of taken aback by > [@How acceptable would "sane Trumpism" be? (not to you, but to America)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-sane-trumpism-be-not-to-you-but-to-america/849280/9): > > … At a high level, Trumps policies are fine… I mean, yes they are — \*\*\*if you are fucking insane \*\*\*. What the hell is wrong with you, **Sage Rat**? Have you not been paying attention to his overarching policies? His goal is to destroy the government, like seventy three-year-olds who are pissed that they cannot have _your toy_ so they want to break it so that you cannot have it. That is ok with you? Fuck everyone who thinks like you sideways up the ass with a hedgehog, and then (you) apologize to the hedgehog. (the original post: ) [spoiler]click the little blue arrow icon at the top of the quote box to see the post in the context of its thread > [@How acceptable would "sane Trumpism" be? (not to you, but to America)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-acceptable-would-sane-trumpism-be-not-to-you-but-to-america/849280/9): > > You’re ignoring competence. > > Personally, I don’t care about the majority of Trump’s tweets (except the ones where he gaslights the idea of becoming President for Life) or that he’s crass. > > High level policies like “Illegal immigration is illegal. Let’s actually do that.” I’m fine with. Locking kids in cages, morality aside, is stupid. A competent President wouldn’t do it as part of an anti-illegal immigration agenda, so it’s moot to talk about it being a policy point of someone more acceptable than Trump. A polite and quiet incompetent who ruins everything he touches still is still going to be hated. > > At a high level, Trumps policies are fine. Many of them are, in essence, the same policy that Obama had: Taking on China, reducing illegal immigration, etc. Trump’s version stands out not because it’s evil so much as that it’s undertaken in moronic fashion that does more harm than good. That these measures also contain evil is just icing on the cake. [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-a-high-level-individual-ones-policies-are-fine/849457/2 "2020-03-14T02:46:39Z")
I thought he had a pretty good point. If you disregard everything he says (because talk is cheap), the new policies aren’t actually bad. That’s why his administration has lasted until this new crisis. The economy, and the rest of America has hummed right along based on the previous Administration’s policies that haven’t changed much. The current President hasn’t really done much of anything besides talk a lot. If you are offended by his speech, then yeah, you think he is the new Satan or whatever. Some people actually care about what actually happens. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-a-high-level-individual-ones-policies-are-fine/849457/3 "2020-03-14T03:05:00Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > The current President hasn’t really done much of anything besides talk a lot. If you are offended by his speech, then yeah … If you think that, you have clearly not been paying attention. He has worked very hard to shred every government agency he can reach. There have been problems with the food supply because he has ripped the heart out of the USDA. We will not begin to feel the effects of his trashing of the EPA for a while yet, but they may prove very troublesome. He has been fighting CAFE standards to the extent that he does not even want individual states to have restrictive control. He has even been [fighting the use of Medicaid funds to fight the foxtrump virus](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/love-god-why-trump-administration-164633966.html), because, reasons, > [@](#): > > … It’s particularly ironic that Trump brings up the H1N1 outbreak of 2009 though, which the Obama administration declared a national emergency. Commonly called swine flu, it was a kind of influenza that resulted in 12,000 deaths in the U.S. alone. As states struggled to deal with the spread of the disease, the federal government loosened restrictions so that state governments could use Medicaid funds to help with testing. Right now, the Trump administration is stonewalling that same process for the coronavirus … At a “high level”, these are his policies. That they are implemented at a lower level does not make them not high-level policies. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-a-high-level-individual-ones-policies-are-fine/849457/4 "2020-03-14T18:13:10Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > … He has even been [fighting the use of Medicaid funds to fight the foxtrump virus](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/love-god-why-trump-administration-164633966.html), because, reasons, … Firefox’s built-in spell-checker flags “foxtrump” as not a word, though I see it is a hashtag on Twitter and DailyKos. Google is able to find but a single occurrence of “Foxtrump virus” however, and yours is it. Congratulations! I did think “Covid-19” was too unwieldy a name. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-a-high-level-individual-ones-policies-are-fine/849457/5 "2020-03-15T01:58:00Z")
His attempt to destroy affordable care is criminal, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-a-high-level-individual-ones-policies-are-fine/849457/6 "2020-03-15T03:03:27Z")
I can’t be bothered to search for it now, but I think **Sage Rat** said something similar before – he’s generally in agreement with Trump’s policies, such as they are. So I guess ruinous tariffs, border concentration camps, and Muslim bans are all OK. I started largely ignoring his posts after that. Anyway, this is another example of what I’ve been saying for a while. Republicans love Trump because he’s doing what they want, what they have wanted for a long time. Even the “Anti-Trump Republicans” don’t really oppose his actions. They’re only pissed that he’s harming the Republican brand by being so coarse and so open about his grift. They accept self-dealing as long as you keep it quiet. They’re perfectly fine with shitting on the poor as long as you can pretty it all up for the _Wall Street Journal_ OpEd page. They’ve been happily in bed with racists for 50 years. What’s not to like about Trump if you’re a Republican? If it weren’t for the rambling speeches and the incoherent tweets, there would be no Anti-Trump Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-a-high-level-individual-ones-policies-are-fine/849457/7 "2020-03-15T03:22:50Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > His goal is to destroy the government Especially anything enacted by the previous administration.