# At least have the balls to say it to my face

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 10, 2003, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256 "2003-05-10T03:02:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/21 "2003-05-10T03:24:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*It has come to my attention that I have annoyed several people here with my “nonsensical phrases” and “insessant posting”.
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> I’m soooo sorry about that.
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> But you know, would it fucking kill you, to maybe TELL me that, instead of just going behind my back and making catty remarks about it?
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> Thanks. Thanks a lot.
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> Suck my twat you miserable bitches. \*\*

I am not one of those expressing an opinion about your posting style Guinistasia, but I will express an the opinion that the SDMB is one pond, and online chat/IMing/personal emails etc. between you and your buds abnd non-buds is another, and to the extent that you have an issue with someone’s IRL opinion about you expressed off board you really should keep this issue out of, and off of, the SDMB. IMO this off board personalities issue really doesn’t really belong here nor should it be addressed here.

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**Author:** ![JavaMaven1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@JavaMaven1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JavaMaven1)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/22 "2003-05-10T03:28:24Z")

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Oh, suck it up, honey. Again, if you’re on a public message board with as many posts as you have (with as little content as possible behind a good half of those posts), you’re going to be criticized. Especially here–did you forget that this is a tough crowd?

You would be far more respected if you’d actually come in with more than a:

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> Here’s a stepladder. Use it to get the fuck over yourself.

You post in nearly every thread with just a few lines (your OP is the first time in weeks I’ve seen a post of yours have more than three sentences). It’s tiring to read things from you with so little to contribute because I know that you’re not a dumb little girl.

I’m not wishing anything but good things for you, **Guin** , but honestly, if there is one person on this board who really needs to get out of the house and away from the computer, it’s you.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/23 "2003-05-10T03:28:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by astro \*  
> \*\*I am not one of those expressing an opinion about your posting style Guinistasia, but I will express an the opinion that the SDMB is one pond, and online chat/IMing/personal emails etc. between you and your buds abnd non-buds is another, and to the extent that you have an issue with someone’s IRL opinion about you expressed off board you really should keep this issue out of, and off of, the SDMB. IMO this off board personalities issue really doesn’t really belong here nor should it be addressed here. \*\*

You don’t know the pit. do you.

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**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/24 "2003-05-10T03:30:04Z")

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Yes, yes. That’s all well and good, but what about the twat sucking?

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**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/25 "2003-05-10T03:30:31Z")

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Ah c’mon, it was worth it just to hear:

“Suck my twat you miserable bitches.”

Guin, I like your posting. You have what I can best describe as a way with words. Don’t change a thing!

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**Author:** ![Jessity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jessity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jessity)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/26 "2003-05-10T03:33:51Z")

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Oh Jesus Christ. I seriously doubt **astro** DOESN’T “know the pit,” **Lobsang**. I think **astro** ’s advice was dead on.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/27 "2003-05-10T03:38:35Z")

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Hey, I’ll be the first to admit I’m overly sensitive, and yes, that’s my problem.

I’ll make no excuses for that.

It just annoys ME that when someone has a problem with me, they don’t just TELL me. Instead, they go off and make catty little remarks. That’s always been my one sensitivity.

Especially as I considered some of them people I liked.

See, I’d rather have someone like **Hama** , who at least doesn’t go running to her little journal and instead says straight out, “You suck” or whatever.

And then I can say, “Yeah, whatever, bite me.” Or something.

_shrugs_

That’s what bothers me-not so much how people feel about me-but how they go about it.

If you have a problem with me, pit me, or insult me TO MY FACE. I prefer it. Really. Because then I don’t feel like such a fool.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/28 "2003-05-10T03:39:13Z")

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?

The pit is chock-full of posts about life outside the SDMB. that is why I questioned **astro** ’s understanding of it.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/29 "2003-05-10T03:41:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lobsang \*  
> \*\*You don’t know the pit. do you. \*\*

Oh, **Astro** knows the pit quite well. Also the Admins’ and Mods’ feelings about bringing off-board stuff here. Do you?

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**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/30 "2003-05-10T03:42:49Z")

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Guin, can you explain something to me, as I don’t know how an LJ works.

Are these comments that you mention anonymous? Or do you know who made them, and are they dopers? Or do you just not want to reveal who made the comments?

Sorry if these are stupid questions, but I really don’t know anything about LJs.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/31 "2003-05-10T03:43:24Z")

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Wait a minute. At first I thought “Lobsang, you’re getting on my nerves.” was sarcastic, as I had only posted two short posts. Now I am not so sure.

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**Author:** ![Jessity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jessity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jessity)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/32 "2003-05-10T03:43:58Z")

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Well, sorry.

Here’s what I see:

X person makes LOCKED post about how **Guin’s** posting style bothers them. (Locked so that the general public cannot see it, if Guin is referring to the post that I am thinking of.)

Y person tells Guin what X person said that Guin was not meant to be able to see.

Yeah, I think that shit should be kept off the boards.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/33 "2003-05-10T03:47:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Qadgop the Mercotan \*  
> \*\*Oh, **Astro** knows the pit quite well. Also the Admins’ and Mods’ feelings about bringing off-board stuff here. Do you? \*\*

I get the feeling the The mods at least have absolutely no problem whatsoever with posting off-board stuff here (I mean off-board as in stuff that happens to people during their day. not stuff that happens on another MB. I know they don’t like that)  
I also get the feeling some people have got trees in their bum.

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**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/34 "2003-05-10T03:49:36Z")

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Lobsang: you’re wrong. They’ve expressed before not to bring off board personal fights here.

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**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/35 "2003-05-10T03:51:14Z")

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Thanks for the explanation, Jessity. No need to say “sorry”, though!

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/36 "2003-05-10T03:52:17Z")

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Well the mods don’t mind people posting about their experiences at a burger bar, or how they hate their boss, or how the next door neighbours are too loud. That’s all off board stuff. That is what I meant by my earlier posts.

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**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/37 "2003-05-10T03:53:34Z")

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Jeez, why do any of you have a problem with **Hama** ’s post? **Guin** came in here and just invited people to say to her face what she claims people are saying behind her back (and not link to it, and apparently drag LiveJournal drama onto the board.) So asked and received, you got criticism to your face. I have no problem with non-political driveby posts, so I don’t care if **Guin** does it or not. But if you’re going to invite criticism here, criticism apparently based on off-board remarks, don’t be surprised when you get it.

And maybe the reason other people didn’t want to make a Pit thread about it is because they _did_ think there were some things better suited to LiveJournal, rather than spread their personal grievance about someone’s posting style all over the Pit. And **Guin** , maybe they didn’t want to deal with the inevitable tidal wave of defenders you’d draw just in virtue of your ancient reg date and monstrous post count.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/38 "2003-05-10T03:56:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jessity \*  
> \*\*X person makes LOCKED post about how **Guin’s** posting style bothers them. (Locked so that the general public cannot see it, if Guin is referring to the post that I am thinking of.)
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> Y person tells Guin what X person said that Guin was not meant to be able to see.
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> Yeah, I think that shit should be kept off the boards. \*\*

If that is what happened then I think **Guin** ’s anger was justified. I too would be angry if someone cowardlyly said something nasty about me behind my back.

However if it is indeed a fact that the Mods and Admins don’t like people posting this _type_ of thing in the pit then You guys are right to say **G** shouldn’t have posted it and I agree.

But I can’t see why people would feel so strongly about **G** ’s posting style based on what I have seen of her [posts]

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/39 "2003-05-10T03:59:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lobsang \*  
> \*\*You don’t know the pit. do you. \*\*

Point taken, but I do know that when posters start to drag IRL opinions of other SDMB members expressed offline out of the context of the SDMB, and flog them in the Pit or elsewhere that the thread is likely going to turn into a nasty trainwreck with a lot of pissed off hurt feelings. I admire a good pit rant as much as anyone, but dragging off board IRL posters opinions in here is getting pretty close to the bone and Guin really needs to address this offline.

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**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2003, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-least-have-the-balls-to-say-it-to-my-face/174256/40 "2003-05-10T04:05:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lobsang \*  
> \*\*If that is what happened then I think **Guin** ’s anger was justified. I too would be angry if someone cowardlyly said something nasty about me behind my back. \*\*

What? Jesus. If a Pit thread was started every time someone didn’t like someone else’s posting style (or grammar, or spelling, or whatever else) that’s all there would ever BE in the Pit. There are people around here who drive me batty but starting a Pit thread about it? That’s just stupid. Do you wander about your school and/or workplace telling people you don’t like them? Of course not. Yeah, I think Guin’s an empty-headed little twit, but I’m not going to start a thread about it, nor would I walk up to her IRL and say such a thing. What would be the point? Since she _asked_, however, I have no problems saying it.

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