# At what point are you officially gay or lesbian? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 20, 2001, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-are-you-officially-gay-or-lesbian/58750 "2001-03-20T18:23:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2001, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-are-you-officially-gay-or-lesbian/58750/41 "2001-03-22T07:40:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Freedom \* > \*\*And straight out of left field we have: > > > [@](#): > > > > While an interesting discussion it is irrelevant when it comes to the rights of people who happen to be homosexual and treating them like human beings. > > Did I miss something here? \*\* Nah, I just don’t think it’s something that’s ultimately all that important. Didn’t mean to start any trouble. Marc ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2001, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-are-you-officially-gay-or-lesbian/58750/42 "2001-03-22T07:54:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > \*\*Must… control… Fist… of… Death… > > Esprix \*\* Well by all means let us know why your fists of death must be controlled. Marc ---
**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2001, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-are-you-officially-gay-or-lesbian/58750/43 "2001-03-22T14:49:52Z")
Hey, **Mojo Filter** , ever consider a job as a standup comedian? That stuff is priceless! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! ---
**Author:** ![barbitu8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@barbitu8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/barbitu8)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2001, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-are-you-officially-gay-or-lesbian/58750/44 "2001-03-22T21:15:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mojo filter \* > \*\*Barbitu8 wrote- > “Homosexuality is not limited to mankind. Homosexuality is prevalent in most, if not all, animals. This tends to show that it is inherited.” > > It does not. It does prove, however, that sexuality itself is inherited. > > Animals have been observed performing homosexual acts. It almost always involves juvenile males of a species. These juveniles have not developed the strength to fight off the larger males, nor have they developed the traits that attract the females. The urge to breed is still there though, and they act on this urge with other juveniles that are in the same predicament. Mature animals have not been observed actually seeking out other mature males to breed with. > > Humans can be observed acting on these same instincts while imprisoned. Although no females are available to breed with, a human male still has the instinct to reproduce and thus will act on this instinct with whomever is available, namely other males. And although they are performing homosexual acts, this does not make them homosexual. Or does it? If so, wouldn’t this show that homosexuality can be learned?\*\* This supports my continuum theory. No one would have sex with anyone else who he or she considers sexually repugnant. If no one else be around, there is always masturbation. The Greeks during the Grecian Empire, as did the Romans, had sex with boys and young men, although they were married. That was considered normal. You state that mature animals have not been seen having sex with other mature same sex animals. You did not exclude their having sex with same sex youths, and implied they did by your prior statement that some immaterial animals would not have the strength to ward off stronger ones. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-are-you-officially-gay-or-lesbian/58750.md?page=2)