# At what point does virginity end for a woman? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 18, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047 "2015-02-18T23:29:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Dodgy_Dude)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/1 "2015-02-18T23:29:18Z")
I can think of four possible candidates. What say you? First contact? Penetration? Her orgasm? His ejaculation? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/2 "2015-02-18T23:36:34Z")
I think penetration is the generally accepted threshold. Certainly not the last two, which may never occur. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/3 "2015-02-18T23:44:44Z")
When you break the seal and the little button on the lid pops up. ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/4 "2015-02-18T23:45:34Z")
Well, virginity is a nebulous, troublesome term, but I think “penetration” is, by far, the most commonly understood answer. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/5 "2015-02-19T00:15:41Z")
Not till _I’m_ through with em! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/6 "2015-02-19T00:18:31Z")
When she decides it has. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/7 "2015-02-19T00:38:19Z")
When the penis has entered the vagina. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/8 "2015-02-19T00:39:49Z")
> [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](#): > > What say you? Me? I’m a guy. She might dicker with you on that point though… ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/9 "2015-02-19T00:42:32Z")
Virginity ends with the penetration. It resumes when she breaks up with the guy. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/10 "2015-02-19T01:09:41Z")
> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#): > > When she decides it has. But what if she’s a nincompoop? I’m not simply being a smartass. I knew a girl, freshman year in college, who was unknowingly pregnant first semester, had a baby over Christmas break, and came back the next semester insisting she was still a virgin because her one episode of two-backed-beast-making had not been sanctified by Jesus and thus didn’t count. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/11 "2015-02-19T01:14:03Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > When the penis has entered the vagina. So a lass who’s only ever lain with other lassies, but has had many such partners and much orgasmic, unphallused sex, remains a virgin. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/12 "2015-02-19T01:38:21Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > So a lass who’s only ever lain with other lassies, but has had many such partners and much orgasmic, unphallused sex, remains a virgin. Hmmm…yeah? ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/13 "2015-02-19T01:39:50Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > So a lass who’s only ever lain with other lassies, but has had many such partners and much orgasmic, unphallused sex, remains a virgin. I truly don’t know when a lesbian who has not slept with a man loses her virginity. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/14 "2015-02-19T01:41:51Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > I truly don’t know when a lesbian who has not slept with a man loses her virginity. When the dildo penetrates the hymen. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/15 "2015-02-19T01:48:00Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > When the dildo penetrates the hymen. What about a girl dildo’ing herself? Is it the act of having someone else insert the dildo that takes the virginity? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/16 "2015-02-19T01:48:09Z")
> [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](#): > > Her orgasm? This obviously can’t be the criteria. Otherwise a woman could have sex 100 times but still claim to be a virgin if she never reached orgasm. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/17 "2015-02-19T02:01:28Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > When the dildo penetrates the hymen. And if she never acts as the receptive partner? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/18 "2015-02-19T02:09:02Z")
\ I got nothin. If a sexually active lady never gets penetrated. I’m not sure virgin still applies. But I have no idea what term would. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/19 "2015-02-19T03:24:36Z")
What if the only penetration is non-consensual? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Joker\_and\_the\_Thief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e79b87/32.png) [@The\_Joker\_and\_the\_Thief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Joker_and_the_Thief)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047/20 "2015-02-19T03:28:16Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > But what if she’s a nincompoop? > > I’m not simply being a smartass. I knew a girl, freshman year in college, who was unknowingly pregnant first semester, had a baby over Christmas break, and came back the next semester insisting she was still a virgin because her one episode of two-backed-beast-making had not been sanctified by Jesus and thus didn’t count. That’s quite the contrivance. As far as I can tell, she just morally exempted all sex from sin. I wonder how far she could take this… “Judge, the murder doesn’t count because it wasn’t approved by Jesus!” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/at-what-point-does-virginity-end-for-a-woman/713047.md?page=2)