# ATHEISM is DEAD - SDMB Poker - Q1, 2010

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 8, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132 "2010-01-08T04:57:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/61 "2010-02-27T02:45:54Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> current standings:
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> 1 Oslo Ostragoth 72.9  
> 2 Meeko 65.6  
> 3 MissTake 60.2  
> 4 Yeticus Rex 60.1  
> 5 Robot Arm 57.9  
> 6 Dag Otto 57.1  
> 7 Red Skeezix 52.1  
> 8 MentalGuy 48.9  
> 9 peekercpa 47.1  
> 10 fubbleskag 35.5
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> I guess it’s time for me to sit out the rest of the quarter…

That’s what I was thinking back in January…

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/62 "2010-02-27T03:11:12Z")

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For the record, knocking me out in the first 20 minutes every week isn’t going to make me go away! 😛

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/63 "2010-02-27T07:26:10Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> 7th is correct.

Wait, what? Did I not get the finish correct?

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/64 "2010-02-27T12:41:22Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> Wait, what? Did I not get the finish correct?

I was under the impression that more people dropped when I changed gears.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/65 "2010-03-05T04:31:26Z")

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I crawled out of the basement to take it tonight!

1. Red Skeezix
2. asterion
3. Missy
4. MentalGuy
5. Yeti
6. Meeko
7. Crane
8. Dag Otto
9. Robot Arm
10. Oslo
11. peeker

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/66 "2010-03-05T04:35:30Z")

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Can I play?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/67 "2010-03-05T04:43:36Z")

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@Cookies: I didn’t see your message on the other board till after the game was done. I sent you a PM with all the relevant info.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/68 "2010-03-05T04:47:19Z")

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no problem. Thanks 🙂

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/69 "2010-03-05T06:22:18Z")

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the standings:

1 Oslo Ostragoth 69.3  
2 Meeko 63.4  
3 Red Skeezix 62.7  
4 MissTake 62.4  
5 Yeticus Rex 59.9  
6 Craneop2 54.3  
7 Dag Otto 54.3  
8 Robot Arm 54.3  
9 MentalGuy 52.4  
10 peekercpa 43.3

Guess I still got it, but I’m pretty nervous.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/70 "2010-03-05T13:29:55Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> the standings:
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> 1 Oslo Ostragoth 69.3  
> 2 Meeko 63.4  
> 3 Red Skeezix 62.7  
> Guess I still got it, but I’m pretty nervous.

What do you have to complain about? I figure if I hadn’t played with my \*\*Q-8 off \*\*[twice] and had stayed in with my Ace-x instead of folding it pre-flop in that one hand, I wouldn’t be where I am now. [To say nothing of getting beat with the A-Q to pocket 4s, and again with pocket 7s.]

But, last night was Red’s there’s no two ways about that. As I said, that game got so tight at one point last night, I don’t think I ever saw anything like it. The question for me is not Red at this point, it’s figuring how many hands Mental stone cold bluffed on.

In other news, Cookies is getting in on the fray? Is she better off or worse off for joining, after the slaughter that was last night?

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/71 "2010-03-05T13:38:05Z")

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I thought I was more favored on that :

Pocket 4s : 53.87%  
Ace Queen Off 45.70%  
Tie: .42%

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/72 "2010-03-06T06:16:35Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> I thought I was more favored on that :
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> Pocket 4s : 53.87%  
> Ace Queen Off 45.70%  
> Tie: .42%

Dude, it’s a “race”: any time you have a pocket pair against two higher cards, it is always going to be close to 50/50.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/73 "2010-03-11T03:13:42Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> Dude, it’s a “race”: any time you have a pocket pair against two higher cards, it is always going to be close to 50/50.

\*\*  
I’m still firmly in the camp that I would take ANY pocket pair over Slick any day. \*\*

You have like 50% chance of improving any hand, anyway, right?

and, in a game that had me playing Queen Eight off, it would seem a lot of the book was wrong for the game.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/74 "2010-03-11T04:58:30Z")

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Looking forward to having you all take my fake money tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/75 "2010-03-11T06:12:34Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> \*\*  
> I’m still firmly in the camp that I would take ANY pocket pair over Slick any day. \*\*
> 
> You have like 50% chance of improving any hand, anyway, right?
> 
> and, in a game that had me playing Queen Eight off, it would seem a lot of the book was wrong for the game.

Check out [PokerStove](http://www.pokerstove.com/). Very informative as to your position vis a vis other hands.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/76 "2010-03-11T06:33:53Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> \*\*and, in a game that had me playing Queen Eight off, it would seem a lot of the book was wrong for the game.

Q8o against one random hand: 56% favorite.  
Q8o against two random hands: 40% favorite.  
Q8o against three random hands: 33% favorite.  
Q8o against four random hands: 27% favorite.

Make of it what you will.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/77 "2010-03-11T06:34:59Z")

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> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#):
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> Looking forward to having you all take my fake money tomorrow.

We all hope that your generosity is extreme.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/78 "2010-03-11T07:06:01Z")

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I fucking hate poker. I played a 300 + 20 play money 9 seat SNG at stars tonite. I got 93 in bad position, which I folded. Flop was 993.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/79 "2010-03-11T12:59:22Z")

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IMPORTANT UPDATE:

Due to hardware problems on my desktop, the poker server has been temporarily moved to my MacBook (running under CrossOver.) As all account info is stored locally, everyone will need to make a new account. I will need to spend some more time making sure I’ve got it listed on the Poker Mavens server list; if not, I will send a direct link to everyone through AIM.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheism-is-dead-sdmb-poker-q1-2010/524132/80 "2010-03-11T16:47:01Z")

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Q8o = Queen Eight offsuit?

If I don’t know such shorthand, am I going to be unsalvagably in the weeds before I even start?

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