I am an atheist. I do not believe that your god exists. Are you saying that I am not telling the truth?
In a lightbulb or out of a lightbulb, it doesn’t matter. It still takes two to screw, even for solipsists. Any fewer and it’s just masturbation.
Where is the Like button?
We could repeat this bit until it becomes clever, but I don’t have the strength to see that effort through.
Then what or where did it come from?
Why don’t you go start a separate thread on that subject, because it’s got fuck-all to do with atheism?
Where did your deity come from? I asked you a similar question way back in post #8. Please answer this time.
It was extracted as ylem from the primeval nothingness by enslaved daemons, then reworked into hydrogen in celestial sweatshops by unpaid illegal immigrant imps and sent to Interdimensional Unlimited’s Universe Manufactory for final transdimensional compression and use.
Woah. Woah woah woah.
Woah.
I CANNOT get on board with this, man.
They’re migrant worker imps. Show some respect.
No need for an apology, this has been an interesting thread. And you learned a couple of new words, besides. Win for everyone.
I don’t know. Is that an allowable answer? If not, why not? Because I can neither answer ‘Yes’ nor ‘No’ to the question, as you’ve framed it. I also have a problem with this: “If you answer with more than “yes” I doubt if you are a real atheist.” So you are defining ‘atheist’ as someone who must believe “that physical matter came out of NOTHING with ABSOLUTELY NO FIRST CAUSE”? What does that have to do with ‘atheism’? If you are defining ‘atheism’ like that, then it’s no wonder you cannot understand the concept. Just ask pchaos. If your definitions are fucked relative to reality, your understanding will be equally fucked.
Both of you are having trouble understanding, because you refuse to abandon your preconceived notions, even when they have been proven to be wrong. It’s not my fault that you insist on ‘understanding’ something through wrongheaded, totally false models of what you are trying to understand. You will never understand, until you abandon the false model you insist on fitting it into. Atheism doesn’t fit into the model you are trying to fit it into. And you will never understand it, until you stop trying to fit that square peg into the round hole you want it to fit into. It’s a square peg. It’s never going to fit into your round hole.
You will achieve better understanding by examining, and trying to understand the peg. Ignore your fucking hole. It isn’t relevant, and is probably wrong.
Do you mean someone who eats pistachio ice cream only on Thursdays, and never on any other day, or do you mean someone who never eats anything on Thursdays except pistachio ice cream , but who can, if so desired, eat pistachio ice cream on other days as well?
I’m too lazy to wait for someone to set me up, so I’ll just do it:
Splitter!
Why thanks, Jragon, for that joke. You’re so funny and original. Is that because you’re so athy?
Why yes, me, I’m the athiest.
You do realize that I was being sarcastic right?
It’s kind of hard to tell satire from earnest statement sometimes. Poe’s Law and all that.
While I very definitely agree with your analysis, mine is somewhat different. I believe that “omnipotent” is, itself, meaningless. “God is infinitely powerful.” No, he isn’t. Infinite power cannot exist…or even be defined. Can God unleash 10^9999 Joules of energy? That would flash-vaporize the entire known cosmos; what, then, is supposed to happen if he unleashes 10^99999 Joules? And that isn’t even starting to get up into the realm of “infinite.”
Same with omniscience: can he know everything? Can he know all that he knows? Can he know that he knows all that he knows? Name me the trillionth prime number. The 10^trillion-th prime number. etc. Again, the very concept is meaningless.
This is a bit academic, since I am comfortably agnostic regarding a lesser God that can wield “only” 10^9999 Joules, or who “only” knows the first trillion prime numbers. Such power is arbitrarily large, enough to accomplish pretty much any definable task. It just doesn’t fall into the stupid trap of being claimed to be “infinite.”
Such an entity is not logically inconsistent. Such an entity could exist. I’ve just never seen any evidence that it does.
That’s exactly why the claim that atheists must prove all gods don’t exist is so bogus. You can do it for some varieties, but I can make up a million we know nothing about. And except for not having a temple, they are just as valid, if not more so, than the ones some people worship.
See, being home sick has some advantages. 
I bet God was real pleased that you forgave him for your knowing more than he?
I don’t see Czarcasm wanting you to accept his. Just giving his reason’s for non-belief. Most Athiests that Iknow came to their thinking by studing the bible and various religions and saw the contradictions, and realized that truth cannot be contradictory, it can be different at times, but not contradictory, like one can say in truth,:It is raining here" while another can say"it is snowing here" another say “it is sunny and hot”, all speak the truth.but live in different parts of the world, so in their circumstance it is true for each of them. But for 3 people who would all stand in the same spot said the same thing, only one of them would be speaking the truth.
At one time I was a misertheist, but my friends were all like “Hey Finn, stop bogarting all the gods!”