# Atheist Bus Driver Trys to Convert Students

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 21, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864 "2018-04-21T15:52:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/21 "2018-04-21T20:02:02Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> …  
> How exactly did you meet these proselytizing atheists?

They hang out in GD.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/22 "2018-04-21T20:22:26Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> The Fundie on the Bus  
> Goes Pray Pray Pray  
> …

100 gods of men on the wall  
100 gods of men  
take one down,  
throw away his crown  
99 gods of men on the wall

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/23 "2018-04-21T20:28:21Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> I’ve met plenty of preaching atheist trying to convert the **saved**. They just get to use terms that exclude themselves from being tagged as such.

\<bolding mine\>

You spelled “credulous” wrong.

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**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/24 "2018-04-21T21:40:02Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> I’ve met plenty of preaching atheist trying to convert the saved. They just get to use terms that exclude themselves from being tagged as such.

Would you please offer some examples of those terms? I don’t, at first blush, agree with you, but I’m curious what your argument is and I’d like to listen in good faith.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/25 "2018-04-21T21:53:56Z")

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I agree that a bus driver shouldn’t lead people in prayer, but I don’t agree it’s the same sort of thing as the title. This is less forcing people to convert, and more forcing people to participate in his own religious practices, in a place where they have not opted into such.

I’m not sure there is an atheist equivalent. Best I can come up with is leading them in a song about how there is no God. But that still doesn’t get it quite right.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/26 "2018-04-21T22:16:32Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I’m not sure there is an atheist equivalent. Best I can come up with is leading them in a song about how there is no God. But that still doesn’t get it quite right.

There’s definitely a lack of rousing atheist hymns. But John Lennon’s _Imagine_ might serve.

> [@](#):
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> Imagine there’s no heaven  
> It’s easy if you try  
> No hell below us  
> Above us, only sky  
> Imagine all the people living for today  
> Imagine there’s no countries  
> It isn’t hard to do  
> Nothing to kill or die for  
> And no religion, too

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/27 "2018-04-21T22:19:39Z")

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> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> There are no atheists on school busses.

I laughed.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/28 "2018-04-21T23:24:45Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> There’s definitely a lack of rousing atheist hymns. But John Lennon’s _Imagine_ might serve.

There’s only one song in the [Atheist Hymnal](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wogta8alHiU).

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/29 "2018-04-21T23:26:43Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I agree that a bus driver shouldn’t lead people in prayer, but I don’t agree it’s the same sort of thing as the title. This is less forcing people to convert, and more forcing people to participate in his own religious practices, in a place where they have not opted into such.
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> I’m not sure there is an atheist equivalent. Best I can come up with is leading them in a song about how there is no God. But that still doesn’t get it quite right.

The atheist bus driver gets his converts when he drive the students to a field trip at a science museum.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/30 "2018-04-21T23:42:54Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> There’s only one song in the [Atheist Hymnal](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wogta8alHiU).

How disappointing. That’s a song _about_ atheists, not _for_ atheists.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/31 "2018-04-22T00:00:18Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Jesus, Take The Wheel.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lydBPm2KRaU)
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> Not what you want to hear from a school bus driver.  
> :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
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> 😃

Jesus rides beside me  
He never buys any smokes  
Hurry up, hurry up, ain’t you had enough of this stuff  
Ashtray floors, dirty clothes and filthy jokes

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/32 "2018-04-22T02:28:47Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Not what you want to hear from a school bus driver.

But EVERYBODY would pray on that school bus.  
Mission accomplished.  
( Chugging down few beers would do the same trick.)

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/33 "2018-04-22T02:34:19Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Only the saved? If they are atheists, how do they know they are saved? For that matter, how do the saved know they are saved?

It’s that “I’m already saved cuz I said I was christian even though I do not practice what I preach or demand of you… but you’re a piece of shit so fuck you anyway” line.  
Matthew 7:21-23

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

James 2:24

You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/34 "2018-04-22T04:03:46Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Only the saved? If they are atheists, how do they know they are saved?

They tell you they are every chance they get.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/35 "2018-04-22T04:07:40Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> They tell you they are every chance they get.

That’s Crossfit enthusiasts, common mistake.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/36 "2018-04-22T04:09:34Z")

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Yeah, too easy. Whenever I see a cross of any sort I hide.

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**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/37 "2018-04-22T04:30:46Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I agree that a bus driver shouldn’t lead people in prayer, but I don’t agree it’s the same sort of thing as the title. This is less forcing people to convert, and more forcing people to participate in his own religious practices, in a place where they have not opted into such…

from artivle: “Nathaniel says he wants to turn people to Christianity,”

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/38 "2018-04-22T04:54:19Z")

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Then he should drive one of [these](https://www.flickr.com/photos/39860650@N02/14036576659), becasue there are no atheists in a Vauxhall.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/39 "2018-04-22T05:15:05Z")

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Sounds like something Jeremy Clarkson would say.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2018, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-bus-driver-trys-to-convert-students/812864/40 "2018-04-22T05:18:19Z")

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Now I’m trying to imagine a Nihilist bus driver preaching to the kids.

Telling 5 and 6 year olds that nothing matters, their lives aren’t important and just like everything else, they’re all going to die someday; as you drive them home.

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