# Atheist Churches, Good or Bad Idea.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 7, 2013, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579 "2013-02-07T12:10:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/661 "2013-02-14T14:48:10Z")

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> [@razncain](#):
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> Why do you continually end your questions with periods?

Good morning Raz and Guys, it’s a rhetorical device. When people are not really interested in an answer to their question they will put a period at the end of the question.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/662 "2013-02-14T14:48:22Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> So who’s going to head up this organization. I’d be happy to volunteer, but you really don’t want a theist to run the organization, you should be able to find somebody better.

First an statement of how this organization is to be organized and what its stated goals should be, then we can start headhunting for a spokesman or executive. If the person can achieve the goals as set forth in the prospectus, I do not see where his (or her) religious preferences can matter any more than his (or her) race or sexual orientation.

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**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/663 "2013-02-14T14:51:02Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> First an statement of how this organization is to be organized and what its stated goals should be, then we can start headhunting for a spokesman or executive. If the person can achieve the goals as set forth in the prospectus, I do not see where his (or her) religious preferences can matter any more than his (or her) race or sexual orientation.

It should really be like the boy scouts or girl scouts. But of course, no sexual or religious discrimination. We should also have a set of non-goals.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/664 "2013-02-14T14:51:36Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> Do I have to explain everything to you guys.

The irony is stunning.

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> Do you want me to start this atheistic organization for you.

We don’t want an organization.

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/665 "2013-02-14T14:52:25Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> Good morning Raz and Guys, it’s a rhetorical device. When people are not really interested in an answer to their question they will put a period at the end of the question.

Atheists demand question marks. If you are gonna head up this thing you should know that.

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**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/666 "2013-02-14T14:55:08Z")

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> [@Cyros](#):
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> Atheists demand question marks. If you are gonna head up this thing you should know that.

According to Marley, no organization is desired. So basically, I wouldn’t have an organization to lead anyway.

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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/667 "2013-02-14T14:56:10Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> According to Marley, no organization is desired. So basically, I wouldn’t have an organization to lead anyway.

You can still design a jersey, if you want.

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**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/668 "2013-02-14T14:57:52Z")

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Where’s the football team? I inserted the question mark. Are we happy now?

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/669 "2013-02-14T14:58:08Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> According to Marley, no organization is desired. So basically, I wouldn’t have an organization to lead anyway.

Well, Muslims don’t want cathedrals but that didn’t stop people from stepping up. **Marley** is just one atheist (and not even the athiest). Don’t give up! You could be the Joseph Smith of Atheism!

Just don’t forget the question marks, hookers, and blow and you can’t lose.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/670 "2013-02-14T14:59:19Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> It should really be like the boy scouts or girl scouts. But of course, no sexual or religious discrimination. We should also have a set of non-goals.

[Already exists.](http://www.secularstudents.org/node/461) Yours would be redundant. And here, you thought atheists had no organizations!

ETA: so, since your first idea was unnecessary, what else you got? Since you’re so eager to help and all.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/671 "2013-02-14T15:00:40Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> I agree. Actually, I don’t. Do I have to explain everything to you guys. Do you want me to start this atheistic organization for you. Wouldn’t that be embarrassing an theist leading an atheist organization.

Are you going to answer the questions put to you on the prior page related to your assumptions about well known atheists and their donation practices?

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**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/672 "2013-02-14T15:06:19Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> Where’s the football team? I inserted the question mark. Are we happy now?

It’s a **not** -football team.  
There is no team, but they still need jerseys. According to your ‘logic’.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/673 "2013-02-14T15:06:54Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> Do you want me to start this atheistic organization for you. Wouldn’t that be embarrassing an theist leading an atheist organization.

Do you want me to start a monotheistic organization for you? There’s not one, after all.

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**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/674 "2013-02-14T15:08:55Z")

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> [@hotflungwok](#):
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> Yeah, but not-hot dogs and not-burgers are so expensive, and not-beer just tastes like piss.

I hate to tell you this, but in China the word for beer is pee-ju. Ju is the word for alcohol. I’m sure you can sound out the rest of the word. Doesn’t sound like it would taste that good.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/675 "2013-02-14T15:11:37Z")

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Ok, no Chinese beer for the not-football games. Are you going to answer some of the questions people have been asking?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/676 "2013-02-14T15:14:51Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> I hate to tell you this, but in China the word for beer is pee-ju. Ju is the word for alcohol. I’m sure you can sound out the rest of the word. Doesn’t sound like it would taste that good.

Try again -

> **[English translation of 啤酒 ( pijiu / píjiŭ ) - beer in Chinese](https://www.hantrainerpro.com/dictionary/chinese-english/translation-pijiu_beer.htm)**
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> 啤酒 ( pijiu / píjiŭ ) (English translation: "beer") as Chinese character including stroke order, Pinyin phonetic script, pronunciation in Mandarin, example sentence and English meaning

It’s - píjiŭ - phonetically its not ‘pee’ unless you’re stretching it.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/677 "2013-02-14T15:15:32Z")

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> [@pchaos](#):
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> I hate to tell you this, but in China the word for beer is pee-ju.

Sounds like an anti-semitic slur to me. And to think all the money I’ve spent at China Palace and all those times they asked me if I would like a beer with my meal. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/678 "2013-02-14T15:20:45Z")

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Bringing this back to the actual topic, I’ll ask the question to **pchaos** again:

Do you want me to start a general monotheistic organization for you? There’s not one, after all.

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/679 "2013-02-14T15:27:24Z")

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I was wondering why this thread was still running. The ignorance in here is stunning.

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**Author:** ![pchaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/258eb7/32.png) [@pchaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pchaos)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-churches-good-or-bad-idea/649579/680 "2013-02-14T15:31:51Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Do you want me to start a general monotheistic organization for you? There’s not one, after all.

No, of course not.

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