# Atheist vs Believers

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 21, 2011, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-vs-believers/593512 "2011-08-21T05:55:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atheist-vs-believers/593512/147 "2011-08-22T03:26:38Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> Religion is faith. The point of faith is that it is not amenable to reason and evidence.

Recall what you said: “Thing is, the natural disposition of this forum is towards rationality and evidence…Religion, by its own admission, is set apart from that.” Obviously your statement would only be true if you could find quotes from adequate religious authority to reasonably represent religion as a whole saying what you said. Otherwise your claim is nonsense. It’s you who inserted the phrase “by its own admission” into your post. The fact that you choose to insult religious believers doesn’t mean that we’ve all admitted your insult to be the truth.

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> Tell me ITR Champion, is there any evidence I could show you that could make you stop believing?

Sure, you could provide me with an intellectual argument more convincing then the arguments I’ve read for Christianity.

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