Schlussel keeps saying on her blog that atheists turn into Muslim extremists. When Atheists a/k/a Future Muslims attack
Schlussel is Ann Coulter without the wit.
Read the boards much?
They were the panel for the entire episode, not just that one issue. Since they discussed Joseph Biden’s “articulate” remark and Dungy and Lovie Smith being the first black head coaches in the Super Bowl, it did make sense to bring the Screamer.
Wow, she’s a fucking moron. That doesn’t even make any sense. If an atheist doesn’t believe in ANY God, how are they to follow the Muslim religion? How does one function with such little gray matter?
I tried reading that link, honest I did. I got about a paragraph into it, then had to stop. The stupid, how it burns!
At least she gives her hatred equal opportunity; she says “Muslim extremists” is redundant. :rolleyes: Gee, I feel so sad that I’m an atheist and not full of Christian love like her.
One might extrapolate that not only is she a hateful bigotted moron, but a racist as well. She’s batting 1000.
From my reading on that page (and yes, I would like those fifteen minutes of my life back, if you please), I gather that Ms. Schlussel is Jewish.
Oops. I’m sorry I’m not full of Jewish love like her, then.
You should be. Any folks who can give the world a word like schtup prolly have lots of love.
No, by not insulting their beliefs I’d be lying. There’s no point in explaining ( although I sometimes do, anyway ), because if they are religious they are already beyond reason. And nothing I do or say will convince them they are wrong or doubt themselves.
What **hotflungwok ** said. And all religion is stupid, not just Christianity; i see little difference between them.
If I don’t notice them, I don’t say a thing on the subject to them; how would I know to do so ? As for the “assholes” who want to convert everyone, those are the Christians that matter. They are the ones who form the heart of Christianity, represent it’s true nature, and give it it’s direction. They are alos either the majority, or might as well be.
This is the closest i can come offhand.
I of course consider higher crime and other destructive behavior to be only natural among theists; being theist means you have poorer judgement; it warps what judgement you have farther; and it gives theists a motive for crime and an excuse for crime that atheists simply don’t have.
It makes perfect sense; the fundies tend to seperate the world into two groups; Christians and Satanists. If you are not exactly like them, you are a Satanist. Atheist = Muslim = Satanist in their eyes; you can add in “Catholic” or “Buddhist” or anything else to that list, depending on the brand of fundie. Many of them also take the attitude that those who disagree with them are not only Satanists, but that they know that they are actually Satanists; they don’t believe that anyone actually disagrees with them.
Huh.
Then why bother (unless you like picking fights with people)?
Unlike you?
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Actually, Yiddish schtup isn’t originally a Hebrew word or one initially associated with Jews. Like most Yiddish words, it’s derived from a form of High German, in this case the German dialect word stupfen.
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And yet you keep at it. On Seinfeld there was an episode where Elaine’s boyfriend Puddy was revealed to be religious, and Elaine asked why he didn’t care that she wasn’t. She got angry when he said that she was the one going to hell, not him, so why should it matter. If someone is truly religious they would be doing you a disservice by allowing you to suffer eternal damnation. A religious persone who doesn’t try to convert you doesn’t care about you.
On the other hand as an atheist I have no obligation to convert anyone. It is truly no skin off my ass whatever they believe. I resist to the best of my abilities government support of religion, but I’m certainly not going to make a cottage industry of it. The government supports things I find much more objectionable than religion. Yes, Jesus is no more real than Santa Claus, but who doesn’t love Santa Claus? And if you don’t love Santa, who can spare the effort to hate him? I’ve got enough trouble hating people who actually exist.
I guess my point is why do you bother? You admit there’s nothing rational about religion, and you can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason into.
I moved from New York State to southwest Ohio several years ago, and the neighbors started up with the “What church do you belong to?” nonsense, but I have a pretty effective way to deal with that, and we don’t discuss it any more. We get a real good turnout on Halloween, because while we pass out full size candy bars (there’s nothing fun about a “fun size” bar) the God Squad is passing out penny candy wrapped in a bible verse.
I know prejudice against atheists exists, and I’m against it, but you can’t do anything about it. Pick your battles, do the best you can, and lighten up.
I’m an agnostic/atheist who was raised in a Southern fundamentalist Christian environment. For a long time, I went around aggressively pushing my atheism just like everyone around me did their Christianity. Then, when I realized I was being a hypocrite, I went in the atheist closet and never spoke to anyone about religion. Now I try to follow the “rule of three”. If someone asks me about religion or brings it up in a way that I am expected to respond, I say “I don’t think it’s appropriate to discuss religion in this setting.” If they press it, I say “I’m sorry, I’m not comfortable talking about this. Can we please change the subject?” If they continue to press it, I say “Please let’s talk about something else. I don’t think discussing religion like this ever does any good.” All of these statements are the truth, and reflect my true feelings on the subject. If they still won’t take no for an answer, I mentally declare a free-fire zone and tell them in no uncertain terms what I really think about religion in general and Christianity in particular, occasionally reminding them that I had repeatedly asked to change the subject, but they just had to press it. The only exception is when someone knocks on my door uninvited to talk to me about their religion. Those people are shown no mercy.
I think my technique works. I live in a heavily Christian area, and I am left alone, which is how I like it. I would also add that no more than one or two people a year get the full treatment. I agree with posters above who say that, for the most part, religious people are generally more tolerant and pragmatic than their more extreme rhetoric would suggest.
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The Hebrew-osity of the word was not being asserted, just the Jewishness. 
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Personally, I dislike being labeled an Atheist or an Agnostic. Why must I have a label for not believing in something that has never been empirically shown to exist? And must I have a label for everything a person, or an overwhelming group of persons, believes exists but which hasn’t been shown to actually exist (by the strict scientific interpretation of the word).
There is pretty overwhelming empirical evidence that the Holocaust happened. Thus, those who do not believe it happened are labeled “Holocaust Deniers.” Fine, I get that. There is absolutely no empirical evidence that flying toasters exist. Must someone who does not believe flying toasters exist be labeled accordingly?
One of my fondest dreams is to live in a world where “atheists” don’t exist … . 