# Athiests why do you need the bible to be removed from your hotel room?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 31, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588 "2016-08-31T18:49:45Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/121 "2016-09-01T20:36:31Z")

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Y’know, I had been missing a spirited visit from the “Religion: BAD!!” crew.

> [@Algher](#):
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> You can often find the Book of Mormon at Marriott hotels, and when I stayed at the Hotel Nikko I picked up a Buddhist book.  
> …
> 
> Satanist track - hilarious and I would love to read it. Some bit from Dawkins, etc. - sure - it is something to read.
> 
> ).

Yeah, the LaVeyans could be fun.

Hmmm… I wonder if somewhere there are hotels with a copy of Dianetics in the nightstand…

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/122 "2016-09-01T20:52:18Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> So, you sympathize with atheists who would rather not find a bible in their room?

To be fair, he is talking about devil worship garbage. No one wants that stuff used. He just wants it freshened up a bit.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/123 "2016-09-01T21:07:53Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> The OP, in post #27, when asked to give details.

Got it, I never clicked on the link.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/124 "2016-09-01T21:17:00Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> First I’ve heard about it-It’s not like we’re unionized or meet up every Sunday.

Well… actually we’ve been meeting regularly for a long time. They just made us all swear on the Bible not to tell you. 😃

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/125 "2016-09-01T21:36:48Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> So, I take it you didn’t read your own cite? Because it does a very good job of answering your question, why those particular atheists are requesting the removal of the bible from those particular hotel rooms. Why ask us? You already have your answer.
> 
> They believe it’s unconstitutional, unnecessary, offensive, and inhospitable. Pretty simple.

The only one I care about is Constitutional, personally.

It would be interesting to see that in Court. If the hotel does not accept the free tracks from other groups, then I see a 1st Amendment case. If, however, the hotel is open to other groups than they can keep on as they always have until the desk has a full library of different bits and pieces it would seem.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/126 "2016-09-01T21:41:19Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Well… actually we’ve been meeting regularly for a long time. They just made us all swear on the Bible not to tell you. 😃

Gosh darn it! :mad:

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/127 "2016-09-01T21:42:31Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> And yet somehow I doubt you’d have the same reaction if somebody was leaving copies of _Mein Kampf._

Heh, I’d steal it, too!

Just another quaint relic of the past. 😉

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/128 "2016-09-01T21:46:47Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Yeah, harmless to you - but I suspect that you’re not an LGBT teenager growing up in a small town in the Bible Belt.
> 
> When people stop spewing hatred of their fellow human beings, I will happily adopt your laissez-faire attitude to religious belief.

They have hotels in your small town in the Bible Belt? We didn’t have any - I had to drive to Tulsa to shack up in a hotel and read a Gideon Bible.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/129 "2016-09-01T21:48:28Z")

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> [@Algher](#):
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> It would be interesting to see that in Court. If the hotel does not accept the free tracks from other groups, then I see a 1st Amendment case.

_Tracts_, questionedentitydamn it, _tracTs_. Unless you are referring to a proselytist sound recording.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/130 "2016-09-01T21:51:40Z")

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No, no… he was talking about playing heavy metal tracks backwards ;).

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/131 "2016-09-01T21:55:29Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I’d be careful about that. I knew a guy who, whenever he’d hook up in a hotel, would put the used condom in the bible.
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> I thought it was pretty stupid myself, but he seemed pretty proud of the act.

:eek:

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/132 "2016-09-01T22:36:40Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> You’re afraid that the Bible will hitch a ride back to your house and create a thousand more Bibles?..

I am…now.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/133 "2016-09-01T23:47:38Z")

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I don’t have a problem with it, as long as there’s PPV porn. _Teach the controversy!_

An interviewer once asked Marilyn Manson whether his practice of tearing up bibles onstage was expensive.

“No”, he answered, “I steal them from hotel rooms”.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/134 "2016-09-01T23:54:50Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> _Tracts_, questionedentitydamn it, _tracTs_. Unless you are referring to a proselytist sound recording.

I belong to a splinter group. We call them tracks to note that God keeps on railroading us…

(dammit)

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/135 "2016-09-02T01:00:41Z")

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> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#):
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> An interviewer once asked Marilyn Manson whether his practice of tearing up bibles onstage was expensive.
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> “No”, he answered, “I steal them from hotel rooms”.

That seems like an odd enough question that I’d be will to bet it was fed to the interviewer specifically so MM could answer it. When you’re putting on a show that probably costs thousands of dollar, what’s an extra $5 a night? Would you ask him if he thinks thinks the drummer is wasting too much money handing out drum sticks at the end of the night or if it gets expensive having one or two drinks throughout the night? All that costs about the same as a bible and no one bats an eye (and MM or any other band).

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/136 "2016-09-02T03:25:24Z")

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> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#):
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> I don’t have a problem with it, as long as there’s PPV porn. _Teach the controversy!_
> 
> An interviewer once asked Marilyn Manson whether his practice of tearing up bibles onstage was expensive.
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> “No”, he answered, “I steal them from hotel rooms”.

I volunteer at my local library, sorting donated items for their bookstore. A lady at my church was horrified when I told her that we sometimes had to put Bibles in the recycle bin, if they are too damaged to sell. Sorry, but I don’t think God wants us reading books with black mold on them, even if He did create black mold in the first place. :dubious: We handle the recycling respectfully, whether it’s a moldy Bible or a water-stained Danielle Steel novel.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/137 "2016-09-02T04:39:04Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> We handle the recycling respectfully, whether it’s a moldy Bible or a water-stained Danielle Steel novel.

A Danielle Steel novel in my hotel room? _That_ I’d have a problem with.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/athiests-why-do-you-need-the-bible-to-be-removed-from-your-hotel-room/764588/138 "2016-09-02T07:02:06Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Or Ezekiel 23:20? (NSFW)
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> 😛

Still a better love story than _Twilight_.

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I can think of a number of things that would disappoint me in a hotel room - A/C can’t get the room cool enough for my liking, too much noise in the hallway, low water pressure in the shower, uncomfy pillows, slow Wi-Fi, the TV doesn’t get HLN and I can’t get my _Forensic Files_ fix - but the presence of a Bible isn’t among them. Nobody’s forcing me to read it. Nobody’s forcing me to even look at it. It’s not going to burn my flesh if I accidentally touch it while reaching for a glass of water in the middle of the night.

The only time I’m ever apt to interact with it is just before I check in, when I search all the drawers and cabinets for hidden treasure.

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Yeah, harmless to you - but I suspect that you’re not an LGBT teenager growing up in a small town in the Bible Belt.

I guess if a person had been Bible-bashed enough, they might have an aversion to having one in the same room with them. Kind of like if they had been abused as a child by being beaten with wire coat hangers or burned with a steam iron, they might be bothered by finding those things in their hotel room.

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