# Atlanta massage parlor shootings - white perp, "apparently" Asian victims **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 17, 2021, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065 "2021-03-17T05:59:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/1 "2021-03-17T05:59:37Z")
Story here: > **[8 People, Many Of Them Asian, Shot Dead At Atlanta-Area Spas; Man Arrested](https://www.npr.org/2021/03/16/978024380/8-women-shot-to-death-at-atlanta-massage-parlors-man-arrested)** > > The Cherokee County Sheriff's Office and Atlanta Police Department are investigating attacks at three spas. Authorities say many of the victims appear to be of Asian descent. Another lipless wonder with a neck beard. I’m going out on a limb here and suggest that he was stupid enough to think that there is some link between someone being Asian or of Asian descent, and guilt or blame for Covid. I know, I’m making a preliminary judgment without a lot of evidence, but prima facie it sure looks likely to me. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/2 "2021-03-17T06:29:10Z")
According to [_The Atanta Journal-Constitution_](https://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-multiple-shootings-shut-down-busy-woodstock-highway/OLE23RVIO5BE3ELWBZAA6GVSSA/), the murderer was driving a Hyundai when he was arrested. Kind of odd choice for someone targeting Asians. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/3 "2021-03-17T09:06:41Z")
He targeted massage parlors, which might mean whorehouses, or might not. Either way, I think he might just have been your run-of-the-mill embittered incel uber-woman-hater. “Asian” massage parlors seem immensely popular – I don’t know why – one common notion is that Asian women are commonly imported to the United States and trafficked into sleazy “massage” work. Maybe it’s just incidental that his victims were Asian? ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/4 "2021-03-17T12:45:46Z")
Maybe they laughed at the size of his penis. Like in the movie Unforgiven. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/5 "2021-03-17T15:01:57Z")
Or it could be domestic terrorism. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/6 "2021-03-17T15:12:29Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Or it could be domestic terrorism. More likely a mental health/sexual motivation. Preliminary statements indicate he was a frequent customer with a self diagnosed sexual addiction and wanted to “eliminate temptation.” > **[Suspect charged with eight counts of murder in killings at Atlanta-area spas,...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/17/atlanta-spa-shootings-live-updates/?outputType=amp)** > > Shootings at three Atlanta-area spas on Tuesday left eight people dead, including six Asian women. Police arrested Robert Aaron Long, 21, after a brief manhunt and said he is the suspect in all three shootings. The shootings spurred concern among... ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/7 "2021-03-17T15:18:19Z")
Yeah, this looks more incel than racist. It’s not the Asian community that is specifically the target of a terrorist attack; it’s women. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/8 "2021-03-17T17:19:08Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > Maybe they laughed at the size of his penis. No, he would have driven something a lot bigger and louder than a Hyundai. And let’s see how he likes it when they laugh at the size of his penis in prison. ---
**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/9 "2021-03-17T17:31:42Z")
First pics showed him with a scraggly beard. Later photos have him shaven and much more cleaned up. Wonder if one his buddies in blue gave him a trim while he waited for his Burger King. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/10 "2021-03-17T17:36:33Z")
> **[Suspect in deadly Atlanta-area spa shootings charged with 8 counts of murder](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-deadly-atlanta-area-spa-shootings-says-he-was-motivated-n1261299)** > > "We're not clear yet on the motive, but I do want to say to our Asian America community that we stand with you," Vice President Kamala Harris said. "It’s unclear if the businesses had any ties to sex work. Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms said the spas were “legally operating businesses that have not been on our radar,” and “we are not about to get into victim blaming, victim shaming here.”" ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/11 "2021-03-17T17:55:01Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > "It’s unclear if the businesses had any ties to sex work. > > Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms said the spas were “legally operating businesses that have not been on our radar,” and “we are not about to get into victim blaming, victim shaming here.”" I’d much rather the narrative be, “It 100% doesn’t matter if the murder victims were massage therapists, sex workers, or any other profession. What matters is that they were humans who were murdered.” It sure looks like he’d taken our society’s misogynistic and internalized-shame attitudes toward sex workers and turned them into a murderous rage. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/12 "2021-03-17T20:24:05Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > More likely a mental health/sexual motivation. Preliminary statements indicate he was a frequent customer with a self diagnosed sexual addiction and wanted to “eliminate temptation.” So… another out-of-control White dude goes on a rampage and kills people because he has the problem but somehow killing other people is going to “solve” this for him…? > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Yeah, this looks more incel than racist. It’s not the Asian community that is specifically the target of a terrorist attack; it’s women. It’s possible to be both incel and racist. Or sex-addicted and racist, with a fetish for Asian women thrown in. Or not. Still early in the news cycle. And I agree - what the victims did or didn’t do for a living should be completely irrelevant. They were human beings who were murdered. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/13 "2021-03-17T21:57:02Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > It’s possible to be both incel and racist. Or sex-addicted and racist, with a fetish for Asian women thrown in. Or not. Still early in the news cycle. > > And I agree - what the victims did or didn’t do for a living should be completely irrelevant. They were human beings who were murdered. Absolutely. And we don’t want to have this somehow taken over by those who’d say the problem is the workplace and not the hate. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/14 "2021-03-17T22:05:33Z")
Perhaps he was violently disappointed that the Asian-run massage parlors didn’t live up to the stereotype. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/15 "2021-03-17T22:23:18Z")
That may be a larger part of it than most folks would think. Suburban Atlanta is not Vientiane. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/16 "2021-03-17T22:33:04Z")
Meh, I think it’s a kid who was raised in an oppressive religious household around a lot of guns and violent ideation. AFAIK, none of my k-12 classmates ever turned into mass murderers, but I did go to school with plenty of kids who were fucked up in the head living in a religious dictatorship, where shame and physical abuse were used as methods of manipulation. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/17 "2021-03-17T22:37:55Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Absolutely. And we don’t want to have this somehow taken over by those who’d say the problem is the workplace and not the hate. It seems to me, from what I’m hearing, that this is a killer whose religion teaches him that sexuality outside of a very narrowly-defined range is a sin against God, and that wicked worldly people will tempt him into damnable behavior, and that this cultish religion twisted him until he engaged in terroristic violence against those wicked worldly people. It’s absolutely a hate crime; it’s absolutely terrorism. I’m less clear on whether it’s specifically racist terrorism. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/18 "2021-03-17T22:46:20Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > It’s absolutely a hate crime; it’s absolutely terrorism. Assuming all this is accurate, it’s a shame we can’t declare whatever organization or sect he and his parents adhere to as a terrorist organization akin to Al Qaeda or the Proud Boys. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/19 "2021-03-17T22:52:24Z")
Jack the Ripper v. 2.0? In one of his letters, he said, “I am down on whores, and I shan’t quit ripping them until I do get busted.” ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065/20 "2021-03-17T22:58:17Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > > > It’s absolutely a hate crime; it’s absolutely terrorism. > > Assuming all this is accurate, it’s a shame we can’t declare whatever organization or sect he and his parents adhere to as a terrorist organization akin to Al Qaeda or the Proud Boys. The problem with that is that is that said sect probably doesn’t actually condone killing people because you lust after them. The Proud Boys and Al Qaeda are explicitly violent organizations. It’s very possible the murderous part is a sect of one. Or that the murderous part isn’t from the religion, but from certain incel forums. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings-white-perp-apparently-asian-victims/938065.md?page=2)