# Atlantis found....... yet again?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 14, 2004, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlantis-found-yet-again/274775 "2004-11-14T22:41:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlantis-found-yet-again/274775/41 "2004-11-16T07:20:29Z")

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> [@HPL](#):
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> I’ve heard that too, but apparently the med was dry(er) perhaps 10,000 BC, long before a civlization such as Atlantis could have expected to have existed.

That’s what I was thinking too that it would be too early and we would be talking about prehistoric tribes with no means of converying history, etc…  
But has nobody looked on the floor of the Med to see any ruins of something there? That woudl be cool to me in itself.

In my opinion, it was either in Crete, or it doesn’t exist. This guy sounds flaky, but it would be cool if he were right.

I remember from the other thread that Plato was saying that it did exist something like 10,000 years ago. But then again, how would he not know of a huge flood that destroyed it… Very doubtful to me.

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlantis-found-yet-again/274775/42 "2004-11-16T07:26:38Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Man, will John Kerry be relieved when he gets that news! 🙂

I admit, it’s not a great theory, but it’s better then many of the theories I’ve heard.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlantis-found-yet-again/274775/43 "2004-11-16T09:13:50Z")

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Although the [Mediterranean Sea](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_Sea) has evidently undergone periods when it was completely or partially dried up and then re-flooded, the last re-flooding event seems to have taken place about 5.4 million years ago. This is way too early to be the source of stories of Atlantis; at that time, our ancestors had brains no bigger than those of chimpanzees.

There have been suggestions that the [Black Sea](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea), on the other hand, was an isolated lake which was flooded by the Mediterranean breaking through what is now the Bosporus about 5600 B.C.E., drowning a considerable area around the shores of the ancient lake. There have been a number of popular science stories in recent years proposing that this dramatic theory is the source for Ancient Near Eastern stories of a Great Flood (one version of which is the familiar story of Noah’s Ark). I don’t recall anyone proposing it as the source for the Atlantis myth, but I wouldn’t be surprised to find someone has. Various aspects of the whole story apparently remain controversial, though.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlantis-found-yet-again/274775/44 "2004-11-16T09:25:24Z")

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[This site](http://www.atlan.org/articles/checklist/) gives out a fairly comprehensive list of possible Atlantean locations (including Peru and the Antarctic!). It seems to fairly even handed - even though they seem to place Atlantis somewhere around the Philipines. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlantis-found-yet-again/274775/45 "2004-11-16T09:29:51Z")

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> [@Merkwurdigliebe](#):
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> Could this explain why it [the Blac Sea] was 50 miles deep?

Accordin to Wikipedia

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> The Black Sea has an area of 422,000 km² and a maximum depth of 2210 m.

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**Author:** ![APB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@APB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/APB)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlantis-found-yet-again/274775/46 "2004-11-16T10:03:14Z")

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> [@Merkwurdigliebe](#):
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> But has nobody looked on the floor of the Med to see any ruins of something there? That woudl be cool to me in itself.

That’s basically what this expedition was trying to do and this is the best that they can come up with - a bump on the sea floor that looks indistinguishable from any other natural formation. As I said, pretty unremarkable.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2004, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/atlantis-found-yet-again/274775/47 "2004-11-16T15:21:46Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Man, will John Kerry be relieved when he gets that news! 🙂

No he won’t be. Subtract Ohio from the whole electoral vote count, and Bush still has more. What Kerry needed was to WIN Ohio, not negate it.

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