# Attack ads "accuse" politician of believing in evolution **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 15, 2010, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517 "2010-05-15T05:14:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/121 "2010-05-20T04:49:24Z")
“And furthermore, I have definitive proof that my opponent TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!!!” ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/122 "2010-05-20T04:57:34Z")
“I will be answerable to our Lord. My opponent answers to Satan.” ---
**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/123 "2010-05-21T20:16:43Z")
So strange when I see stuff like this in today’s era. Did they teach creation theory in schools like 100 yrs ago? Was it there then removed? Why such a push now to teach something that was probably never taught in a school anyway?? And btw… the Mason-Dixon line is on the southern border of PA. So technically MD, DC, VA are also south of mason-dixon. Not sure you can lump us in with places like Alabama. If I go any further south than Richmond VA, they consider me a yankee. _edit_ Woot! my Charter member title is back. thanks Ed! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/124 "2010-05-21T20:27:42Z")
No, creationism as a movement actually didn’t pop up until the 50s or so, and wasn’t too organized or strong until maybe the 80s. It seems that religious people weren’t quite so fundy and aggressive about the issue until I guess maybe they viewed their traditional world starting to collapse with the social changes in the country at the time, which galvanized them into a movement to act as stupid as possible to fight it. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/125 "2010-05-21T20:33:34Z")
> [@Dob](#): > > So strange when I see stuff like this in today’s era. Did they teach creation theory in schools like 100 yrs ago? Was it there then removed? Why such a push now to teach something that was probably never taught in a school anyway?? I don’t know about 100 years ago, but I was in school during the fifties and sixties and the only religious “education” we got then was in the form of elementary school Christmas plays and a daily prayer which most kids regarded perfunctorily at best. Imo, it’s only been since the left got such a bug up its butt about religion and set about trying to eliminate it from public view that strong efforts to promote it have begun coming from the right. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/126 "2010-05-21T21:05:17Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I don’t know about 100 years ago, but I was in school during the fifties and sixties and the only religious “education” we got then was in the form of elementary school Christmas plays and a daily prayer which most kids regarded perfunctorily at best. > > Imo, it’s only been since the left got such a bug up its butt about religion and set about trying to eliminate it from public view that strong efforts to promote it have begun coming from the right. Yeah, once the religions other than Christianity started insisting on being recognized, everything just went to shit. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/127 "2010-05-22T00:35:45Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I don’t know about 100 years ago, but I was in school during the fifties and sixties and the only religious “education” we got then was in the form of elementary school Christmas plays and a daily prayer which most kids regarded perfunctorily at best. > > Imo, it’s only been since the left got such a bug up its butt about religion and set about trying to eliminate it from public view that strong efforts to promote it have begun coming from the right. It wasn’t until we got rid of school prayers that they started to bug us about having school prayers. Until then, we just had school prayers. I was in school in the early 60s and did not think it was perfunctory. They used a different version of the Lord’s Prayer than I was used to and I had to decide whether to add on the few words on the end and be ridiculed or to be silent and be subjected to eternal damnation. I don’t see what’s so hard about this, just pray at home before you get to school. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/128 "2010-05-22T05:32:54Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > I don’t know about 100 years ago, but I was in school during the fifties and sixties and the only religious “education” we got then was in the form of elementary school Christmas plays and a daily prayer which most kids regarded perfunctorily at best. > > Imo, it’s only been since the left got such a bug up its butt about religion and set about trying to eliminate it from public view that strong efforts to promote it have begun coming from the right. Now **there’s** a ringing endorsement for government sponsorship of religion. “Bring back school-mandated prayer and Christian-themed holiday celebrations! Restore the good old-fashioned American tradition of religious apathy!” I love how conservatives continually tell other conservatives that we need government sponsorship of religion to keep our faith as a Christian nation active and strong, and then turn around and try to tell liberals that government sponsorship of religion doesn’t actually make anybody more religious or more chauvinistic about their religious beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/129 "2010-05-23T14:24:52Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I love how conservatives continually tell other conservatives that we need government sponsorship of religion to keep our faith as a Christian nation active and strong, and then turn around and try to tell liberals that government sponsorship of religion doesn’t actually make anybody more religious or more chauvinistic about their religious beliefs. And when the subject is removing “In God We Trust” from money or “Under God” from the pledge, they fiercely defend keeping them with argument that they are meaningless. If they’re so meaningless, remove them and STFU! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/130 "2010-05-23T20:00:39Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > "My opponent wants to be your Senator. What my opponent isn’t telling you is that he weighs _exactly the same_…as a DUCK! Cue the scary music Duh duh duuuuuhhhhnnnnnnn ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/131 "2010-05-23T20:02:00Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Now **there’s** a ringing endorsement for government sponsorship of religion. “Bring back school-mandated prayer and Christian-themed holiday celebrations! Restore the good old-fashioned American tradition of religious apathy!” > > I love how conservatives continually tell other conservatives that we need government sponsorship of religion to keep our faith as a Christian nation active and strong, and then turn around and try to tell liberals that government sponsorship of religion doesn’t actually make anybody more religious or more chauvinistic about their religious beliefs. I believe it’s currently called "talking out both sides of your face’ or neck. or ass? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/132 "2010-05-23T20:41:28Z")
It could also be called “fictitious”, since I said nothing to suggest the attitudes that **Kimstu** and **Revtim** are making fun of. Cute how they make up their own ridiculous conservative arguments and then condemn conservatives for having them. I would have posted a rebuttal sooner but frankly I’m getting fed up with the dishonesty around this place. It’s omnipresent and never-ending. Comes a time when you just have to stop pissing in the wind. (Though obviously I haven’t quite got there yet. :)) ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/133 "2010-05-23T20:50:59Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It could also be called “fictitious”, since I said nothing to suggest the attitudes that **Kimstu** and **Revtim** are making fun of. Cute how they make up their own ridiculous conservative arguments and then condemn conservatives for having them. You really can’t see that they’re parodying you? ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/134 "2010-05-23T21:40:16Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It could also be called “fictitious”, since I said nothing to suggest the attitudes that **Kimstu** and **Revtim** are making fun of. I said “they”, so unless you are multiple people, I don’t know why you thought it was you specifically I was referring to. ---
**Author:** ![AWB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AWB)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/135 "2010-05-24T01:16:01Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > [http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/13/ad-questioning-candidates-faith-jolts-alabama-governor-contest/](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/13/ad-questioning-candidates-faith-jolts-alabama-governor-contest/) > > Believing science is a political liability in Alabama. How does this happen in the 21st century? Ah, but when you cross the Alabama border, there’s a sign: Welcome to Alabama. Please set your watches back 120 years. ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/136 "2010-05-25T18:31:48Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > I live in Georgia, and all I have to say is a heartfelt, "Thank you Alabama, thank you for taking on the incredible task of making my elected officials, idiots that many of them are, look good in comparison to yours – and succeeding so brilliantly! Hey…I lived in Georgia for 2 years working as a college teacher. I had spent the previous years in Wyoming and Montana. The politicians there considered every dollar spent on your pitiful salary to be a waste. I even heard a politician say that he changed his mind on an issue when he found out a majority of teachers liked it (he changed from liking it to not liking it). My first experience with a Georgia politician was like a slap on the face. It took me a few minutes to discover that he REALLY, TRUELY seem to care about education in Georgia. I met several others and the results were similar. Now Georgia has a shitload of problems but, damn, give me those Georgia poiliticians I met over the insulting fucktards of Wyoming and Montana any time! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/137 "2010-05-26T20:28:43Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > It wasn’t until we got rid of school prayers that they started to bug us about having school prayers. Until then, we just had school prayers. > > I was in school in the early 60s and did not think it was perfunctory. They used a different version of the Lord’s Prayer than I was used to and I had to decide whether to add on the few words on the end and be ridiculed or to be silent and be subjected to eternal damnation. > > I don’t see what’s so hard about this, just pray at home before you get to school. But if it’s different, and came from a different religion or denomination, then you are cavorting (or contorting?) with heretics. So, yer pretty well fucked over anyway :eek: ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/138 "2010-05-29T07:33:26Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > Of course not. That’s inaccurate. > > Everyone south of the Mason-Dixon line is an \*inbred, incest-practicing, racist, xenophobic, intolerant, superstitious, hypocritical, obese, short-tempered, gun-loving, willfully \*ignorant rube. > > 😛 > > I kid. I kid.😃 Hey! I for one am not inbred. I was conceived in a date rape. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/139 "2010-05-29T07:37:44Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Honest question for those familiar with Alabama politics – has there been anyone elected to state-wide office who could reasonably be called liberal or progressive, ever? Sure, between 1870 & 1890. The good ol’ boys killed 'em. Literally. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517/140 "2010-05-29T07:56:13Z")
Sorry, it was between 1865 & 1877. Shorter than I remembered. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-ads-accuse-politician-of-believing-in-evolution/539517.md?page=8)