# Attack in Jeddah

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 6, 2004, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350 "2004-12-06T12:20:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/1 "2004-12-06T12:20:22Z")

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Not to worry. They missed me by several miles. No activity in my little sphere of activity. Airline flights are on schedule. Traffic downtown is all screwed up.

The troops at our gate are doubled up and we are all locked in for the night.

Really nothing to report.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/2 "2004-12-06T12:21:42Z")

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Good to hear you are okay. The reports on NPR here sound promising. Stay safe.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/3 "2004-12-06T14:13:11Z")

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Glad to hear it as well - I thought about you when I heard the news story this morning, and then I hoped I was probably just being silly.

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**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/4 "2004-12-06T16:04:58Z")

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> [@Ferret Herder](#):
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> Glad to hear it as well - I thought about you when I heard the news story this morning, and then I hoped I was probably just being silly.

Yeah, me too. Thanks for checking in!

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/5 "2004-12-06T17:16:27Z")

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_wipes brow, very relieved_

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/6 "2004-12-06T17:20:49Z")

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Glad you’re safe.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2004, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/7 "2004-12-06T17:31:30Z")

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Did you hear anything, like explosions or gunfire?

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/8 "2004-12-07T01:42:58Z")

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Not a thing. All the news on the base came through the cell phones. Nothing exciting at all. We were locked in last night here at the compound.

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**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/9 "2004-12-07T02:59:08Z")

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Good to hear you’re safe. I hope and pray other foreigners in the Kingdom remain safe and sound, and that dangerous elements are found, rounded, and “dealt with” swiftly.

May the attackers be pitted for eternity.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/10 "2004-12-07T03:34:21Z")

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> [@WeRSauron](#):
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> Good to hear you’re safe. I hope and pray other foreigners in the Kingdom remain safe and sound, and that dangerous elements are found, rounded, and “dealt with” swiftly.
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> May the attackers be pitted for eternity.

Now I have this picture of **Paul** looking at them, holding two fingers up and saying, “I’m crushing your head!” 😃

Glad to hear you’re safe.

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/11 "2004-12-08T19:32:50Z")

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Glad to see you are OK Pauk. I thought about you as soon as I heard the news.

> [@WeRSauron](#):
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> Good to hear you’re safe. I hope and pray other foreigners in the Kingdom remain safe and sound, and that dangerous elements are found, rounded, and “dealt with” swiftly.

Maybe you could include in these wishes the Saudi citizens? You know, those who are at home there? (Which includes those who are now dead).

Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/12 "2004-12-08T19:44:24Z")

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Ah, you are most correct. I am very sorry.

I hope Saudi citizens - all people within the boundaries of the Kingdom - remain safe, except for those who conduct these vile attacks. May the perpetrators be caught and neutralized as swiftly as possible, and may stability be restored in the Kingdom.

(I am still very, very stunned by firefights that occured many, many months ago in the holy city of Mekkah between terrorists and Saudi forces. If terrorists have no qualms of abusing the sanctity of Mekkah, we can be sure that there is no limit how far they will be willing to go.)

WRS/Thû

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/13 "2004-12-08T19:53:02Z")

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> [@WeRSauron](#):
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> If terrorists have no qualms of abusing the sanctity of Mekkah,

Believing that you are chosen by G-d to be better than anyone else happens to extremists in any religion.

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/14 "2004-12-08T19:55:15Z")

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> [@WeRSauron](#):
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> Ah, you are most correct. I am very sorry.

Oh well, the heat of the moment and all…

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> (I am still very, very stunned by firefights that occured many, many months ago in the holy city of Mekkah between terrorists and Saudi forces. If terrorists have no qualms of abusing the sanctity of Mekkah, we can be sure that there is no limit how far they will be willing to go.)

Proves once again my point when I say: These kind of people are less Muslim then my cat is.  
Yet it’s not the first time in Islamic history that Mekka or even the Ka’aba were in the centre of a fight.

Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Chimpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@Chimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimpy)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/15 "2004-12-08T20:04:57Z")

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I’m glad you’re ok **Paul** I thought of you when I heard the news.

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**Author:** ![WeRSauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@WeRSauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WeRSauron)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/16 "2004-12-08T20:19:30Z")

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Unfortunately, **Aldebaran** ’s quite right.

A long, long, long time ago, the Qarmatians harrassed caravans of pilgrims. Then they attacked Mekkah. They abducted the Black Stone (on one of the corners of the Ka’ba). They didn’t kidnap it for ransom - they just took it. Rulers pleaded with them to return it, but they refused. Later on, they threw it back, broken in pieces. Such is its state to this day (held together, of course, with silver thread). Of course, it shocked many people, but this was before Mekkah was in stable hands.

Once, when the Ka’ba was made of wood, it was burned down by a flaming arrow aimed at the building. Maybe it was the Qarmatians again. I forget. Oh, those crazy, crazy Qarmatians.

Now, of course, it’s firmly in the House of Saud’s hands. As much as I may not like the House of Saud, I’m glad for the sake of Islam that the Haramain are in firm hands.

WRS/Thû - where’s your sig, A? I love your sig.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/17 "2004-12-08T20:23:48Z")

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Good to hear, Paul. How’s Onan?

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2004, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/18 "2004-12-08T20:33:34Z")

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Glad to hear you’re okay, Paul. Your updates always provide a unique perspective.

[Norman Mailer]  
Keep a tight asshole.  
[/Norman Mailer]

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/19 "2004-12-09T03:30:14Z")

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Onan is doing well, although I have never met a more distrustful animal. He no longer screams at me when I come near, but I cannot touch him. Darn it, I want a bird I carry on my finger!

Further, He does not seem to explore his Parrot Palace much. He plays with the same toys, never going near others.

As I said, I think he was abused by a previous owner.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2004, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-in-jeddah/278350/20 "2004-12-09T03:33:43Z")

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> [@Paul in Saudi](#):
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> He plays with the same toys, never going near others.

I understand his namesake was known for that, too.
