# Attack of the Clones Mysteries. Let's list 'em.(total spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 17, 2002, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567 "2002-05-17T15:20:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/61 "2002-05-20T00:01:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lenin \* > \*\*Here’s something I don’t get: > > After Anikin left Tatooine, his mother was sold to the Lars. Ten years pass, and Anikin meets his step brother. But why is it that they both look the same age given that Owen Lars should be only 10 years old? > \*\* If you’ll notice, when they bury Shmi, there are two other headstones visible. It stands to reason that one of those is Cliegg’s first wife, Owen’s mother. ---
**Author:** ![Chekmate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@Chekmate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chekmate)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/62 "2002-05-20T01:19:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by king of spain \* > \*\*Where did Mace Windu get the only purple lightsaber in existence? \*\* [Maxim Magazine](http://www.maximonline.com/entertainment/articles/article_4621.html) > [@](#): > > **Does George Lucas let you tell him what to do around the set?** > No—I didn’t push it. I was just glad they didn’t kill me off, because I knew that if I didn’t die in the first one, I had an opportunity to be in the second and the third. I only asked for one thing specifically, and I actually got it, which was cool. > > **What was that?** > I asked if I could have a purple lightsaber. George thought about it and said, “Well, we only have two colors: The good guys have one, and the bad guys have another.“But when I went back for some pickup shots, he had one for me. And he said, “I’ve already caused a lot of controversy on the Star Wars Web site because of this—why did you want purple?” I just figured a purple light would help me find all the lint on my robes so I could pick it off. Hope this helps to shed some light on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/63 "2002-05-20T05:01:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Enderw24 \* > \*\*fiction? > It _was_ a long time ago in a glaxy far far away so, theoretically, these could be historical documents. An accurate depiction of what happened in the past. Ya know, like Braveheart… \*\* Or, _ **Galaxy Quest** _! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/64 "2002-05-20T14:14:38Z")
I’m going to say this nice and clearly. [ahem] **Palpatine is not Darth Sidious!!!** Sort of. He’s a clone of Sidious, whom Sidious can control. As soon as the time is right, he will kill him and replace him. Just wait and see. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/65 "2002-05-20T15:37:00Z")
“George thought about it and said, “Well, we only have two colors: The good guys have one, and the bad guys have another.” Dammit, Lucas! Get your own story straight! The good guys have had two different colors since **Jedi**! > [@](#): > > Sort of. He’s a clone of Sidious, whom Sidious can control. As soon as the time is right, he will kill him and replace him. Still standing by that even after Dooku _said_ that Palpatine was Sidious? ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/66 "2002-05-20T15:57:08Z")
You’re mistaken. Dooku simply said that Sidious is in control of the Senate. If Sidious is in control of Palpatine, that counts too. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/67 "2002-05-20T16:10:17Z")
Hey! Quit stealing my theory! 🙂 Actually, though I’ve long been a proponent of the Palpatine/Paalpatine clone possibility, I’m starting to doubt it now that Lucas has made all clones look like Jango. And Lucas will do anything to prove me wrong. He hates me. ---
**Author:** ![lawoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@lawoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawoot)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/68 "2002-05-20T16:17:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mahaloth \* > I’m going to say this nice and clearly. > > [ahem] > > **Palpatine is not Darth Sidious!!!** > > Sort of. He’s a clone of Sidious, whom Sidious can control. As soon as the time is right, he will kill him and replace him. > > Just wait and see. Actually, I like this theory. It would explain why the Jedi Council doesn’t feel the Dark Side OOZING out of Palpatine. ---
**Author:** ![sghoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@sghoul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sghoul)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/69 "2002-05-20T18:38:16Z")
Ok, question about Cypher-diaz 9or whatever). If you watch the councel scenes in EP 1, you will see a LONG necked Jedi…looks remarkably like a Kaminoian. Regardless of whether that is cypherdiaz, wouldn’t that mean that Jedi would know what the heck a Kaminoian is? ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/70 "2002-05-20T18:38:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sturmhauke \* > \*\*Hell, we don’t even know the names of everyone on the Jedi Council. \*\* ::Nerd Decloaking:: here are the council memebers as of TPM: [Mace Windu](http://www.decipher.com/youngjedi/cardlists/menaceofdarthmaul/light/large/7macewindujedimaster.html) [Yoda](http://www.decipher.com/youngjedi/cardlists/thejedicouncil/light/large/10yodajedicouncilmember.html) [Ki-Adi-Mundi](http://www.decipher.com/youngjedi/cardlists/thejedicouncil/light/large/12kiadimundicereanjediknig.html) [Adi Gallia](http://www.decipher.com/youngjedi/cardlists/thejedicouncil/light/large/13adigalliacorellianjedi.html) [Depa Billaba](http://www.decipher.com/youngjedi/cardlists/thejedicouncil/light/large/14depabillabajedimaster.html) [Eeth Koth](http://www.decipher.com/youngjedi/cardlists/thejedicouncil/light/large/15eethkothzabrakjedimaster.html) [Even Piell](http://www.decipher.com/youngjedi/cardlists/thejedicouncil/light/large/16evenpielllannikjedi.html) [Oppo Rancisis](http://www.decipher.com/youngjedi/cardlists/thejedicouncil/light/large/17opporancisisjedimaster.html) [Plo Koon](http://www.decipher.com/youngjedi/cardlists/thejedicouncil/light/large/18plokoonjedimaster.html) [Saesee Tiin](http://www.decipher.com/youngjedi/cardlists/thejedicouncil/light/large/19saeseetiiniktotchijedi.html) [Yaddle](http://www.decipher.com/youngjedi/cardlists/thejedicouncil/light/large/20yaddlejedimaster.html) [Yareal Poof](http://www.decipher.com/youngjedi/cardlists/thejedicouncil/light/large/21yaraelpoofquermianjedi.html) Attack of the clones had a few new members. The ugly Q-Tip looking dude (Yarael Poof) i didn’t see (thank goodness), but i noticed Plo Koon, Yoda, Mace, Oppo, and Ki-Adi. Will see it soon and can give more detailed descriptions. ::Nerd cloaking:: ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/71 "2002-05-20T19:26:40Z")
On the question of Amidala and Anakin’s aging: IIRC, Amidala was fourteen in TPM and Anakin was nine. The disparity of ages there was due to the fact that, as on Earth, girls just mature faster. (Take a look at the Naboo scenes, especially near the end. She really looks early-teens. It’s the Tatooine scenes that throw the whole thing off, because she looks late teens/early twenties; I think they were shot last in the production schedule, when Natalie Portman was going through her last growth spurt.) Now, in AOTC, Anakin is nineteen and Amidala is twenty-four. Hardly what I would call scandalous. ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/72 "2002-05-20T20:46:16Z")
Who payed for the 1,200,000 clones? (200,000 ready now, 1 million later) I am assuming they were not created for free, nor cheap. How do you hide that kind of funding from the Republic GAO? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/73 "2002-05-20T21:09:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by xizor \* > \*\*Who payed for the 1,200,000 clones? (200,000 ready now, 1 million later) I am assuming they were not created for free, nor cheap. How do you hide that kind of funding from the Republic GAO? \*\* I’d guess it came from the Sith Slush Fund, generating interest for the last several millenia. ---
**Author:** ![Caesar\_s\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/73ab20/32.png) [@Caesar\_s\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caesar_s_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2002, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/74 "2002-05-20T23:39:33Z")
Just adding stuff in from the ‘Star Wars AOTC Scrapbook’ by Ryder Windham about the Jedi Council. I don’t know if this book is canon. The pic is of an early scene with Obi-Wan and Anakin with the Jedi Council. They are looking at Yoda. To Yoda’s right is Mace Windu Plo Koon, a Kel Dor from Dorin Depa Billaba, who did not go to Geonisis (and I can’t see her face from the angle) Eeth Koth, a Zabrak Coleman Trebor, from Sembla Adi Gallia Oppo Rancisis, a Thisspian Even Piell, a Lannik Shaak Ti, a Togruta from Shili Saesee Tiin, an Ikotchi Ki-Adi-Mundi, a Cerean (with a BINARY brain!) The ‘Jedi Training and Trials Quiz Book’ lists those at the time of the T. Fed. blockade of Naboo. The following are only Jedi who are not in the above list. Yaddle (same species as Yoda) Adi Allia Yareal Poof Depa Bellaba Plo Koon ---
**Author:** ![Tixenfleaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9a140/32.png) [@Tixenfleaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tixenfleaz)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/75 "2002-05-21T02:13:21Z")
I’m no SW expert, but shouldn’t the Jedi have been a bit put off by using a clone army? I realize they didn’t have a choice, but they didn’t seem at all disturbed by the idea of humans generated as battle slaves. Of course, none of them ever bothered to free Anakin’s slave-mom either. ---
**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/76 "2002-05-21T03:18:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CaptMurdock \* > \*\*On the question of Amidala and Anakin’s aging: > > IIRC, Amidala was fourteen in TPM and Anakin was nine. The disparity of ages there was due to the fact that, as on Earth, girls just mature faster. (Take a look at the Naboo scenes, especially \*\* Fourteen! What kind of government elects 14 year girls as their head of state? I know she is cute and all, but… This would all make sense if it was a monarchial rule, but AOTC made it clear that that was not the case. ---
**Author:** ![Natural-J-Bankie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/59ef9b/32.png) [@Natural-J-Bankie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natural-J-Bankie)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/77 "2002-05-21T03:38:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sghoul \* > \*\*Ok, question about Cypher-diaz 9or whatever). If you watch the councel scenes in EP 1, you will see a LONG necked Jedi…looks remarkably like a Kaminoian. > > Regardless of whether that is cypherdiaz, wouldn’t that mean that Jedi would know what the heck a Kaminoian is? \*\* Yarael Poof is not the same species as the Kaminoans. Similar, but it doesn’t seem like they’re the same. Check the picture of him on [http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/yaraelpoof/index.html](http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/yaraelpoof/index.html). > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by archmichael_ > \*\*Why did the everyone drop the use of missile technology in Episodes IV, V & VI? I think AOTC had the only use of missiles in the series. \*\* They do use torpedoes in Episode IV to blow up the Death Star. > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by xizor_ > **Who payed for the 1,200,000 clones? (200,000 ready now, 1 million later) I am assuming they were not created for free, nor cheap. How do you hide that kind of funding from the Republic GAO?** C.O.D.? 😉 Seriously, perhaps Sidious paid only for a portion up front, and the rest would be paid later from his slush fund. I can imagine that the Force would help you earn and hide money in many ways. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/78 "2002-05-21T03:51:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JKilez \* > \*\* > > Fourteen! What kind of government elects 14 year girls as their head of state? I know she is cute and all, but… > > This would all make sense if it was a monarchial rule, but AOTC made it clear that that was not the case. \*\* Perhaps she was nominated by Humbert Humbert. ---
**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/79 "2002-05-21T08:23:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tuckerfan \* > \*\*Perhaps she was nominated by Humbert Humbert. \*\* Ahh… yes. The much sought after dirty-old-man vote–of course. I guess that the multiple poses on the Amidollars would be much more collectable than Susan B.'s as well. ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2002, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567/80 "2002-05-21T11:34:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by xizor \* > \*\*Who payed for the 1,200,000 clones? (200,000 ready now, 1 million later) I am assuming they were not created for free, nor cheap. How do you hide that kind of funding from the Republic GAO? \*\* Remeber whom Dooku was making deals with on Geonosis: The Trade Federation, the Banking Clan, and the Commerce Guild. Cha-ching! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-clones-mysteries-lets-list-em-total-spoilers/109567.md?page=5)