# Attack of the Crazy Woman **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 8, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305 "2007-12-08T18:24:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/181 "2007-12-11T01:50:36Z")
Why does it have to be that he left over hurt feelings? If I were him, I cut my losses–the Dope hasn’t become a habit for him, yet, and why explain yourself over and over again? Clearly he has other things to do with his time–like save his house from daily vandals. He had an interesting story to tell here-one that had lots of potential for discussion of a myriad of topics. Oh, well. Guess we’re back to rants about Bush this and Hillary that etc. Boring. I will never understand the mentality here: “here’s your hat, what’s your hurry?” seems to sum it up. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/182 "2007-12-11T02:19:39Z")
I agree, him leaving over this doesn’t mean he’s thin-skinned, it may just mean he doesn’t really have that much invested in staying here. And as Rick said some people highly object to other people insisting that you’re lying when you know you’re not. I know I hate that and that sort of thing gets me extremely angry. Since he was generally well-liked in his short time here it just would have been nice if the skepticism could have waited until a later date. I was a lot more suspicious of T.O. and well … ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/183 "2007-12-11T02:23:57Z")
[QUOTE=Rick] Now either JAOV was telling the truth or not. Based on what he has posted, I believe him. A lazy cop/bad department? Gee how many threads have we had about that over the last 5 years? A dozen? Two dozen? Yet Guin comes in with How the fuck can you get to 31,000 posts and not read any threads about cops fucking off / fucking up / being lazy? Are you now the official SDMB short term memory specialist? Nice thread shit. But no problem, it got another post for you to add to your total. [/QUOTE] Christ, did I run over your dog or something? I’ve read about asshole cops. I’ve read about crazy neighbors and all that. I didn’t say it was automatically a lie, just that the whole thing together sounded suspicious, and one would think that the police reaction would at least warrant media attention. But whatever makes you happy, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/184 "2007-12-11T02:24:43Z")
> [@](#): > > T.O. > BANNED Well, someone in this thread was doing some lying. BTW, I didn’t report anything. Not my style. I only report Liberal’s posts. ---
**Author:** ![percypercy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@percypercy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/percypercy)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/185 "2007-12-11T02:54:10Z")
[QUOTE=Sapo] Not that this is the first time it happens, and not that I care much about it. But. I am a guy. Sorry to disappoint 😉 ETA: And thanks for getting it. As you said, I don’t make too much of an effort to defend myself as it often looks desperate. It is good to see that someone is paying attention. One person getting it is all I ask. The majority can go take a walk. [/QUOTE] ## I don’t have a side in this argument, but just from reading the thread, it’s clear **Sapo** was agreeing with **oldvet** in disagreement with **Rilchiam**. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/186 "2007-12-11T03:03:07Z")
[QUOTE=Waverly] Well, someone in this thread was doing some lying. BTW, I didn’t report anything. Not my style. I only report Liberal’s posts. [/QUOTE] I don’t think anyone had any doubts about T.O’s pedigree. He was clearly an experienced guest, to put it politely. ---
**Author:** ![Tully\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@Tully\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tully_Mars)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/187 "2007-12-11T03:04:35Z")
Damn, **Rick**. I was late getting home from work and you beat me to it. Good job. **Guinastasia** , you can try to tapdance around it, but you just called a man a liar based simply on the fact that his story exceeded your limited experiences. I think that says quite a bit about _your_ character. That’s all I have to say about that. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/188 "2007-12-11T03:15:20Z")
[QUOTE=Tully Mars] Damn, **Rick**. I was late getting home from work and you beat me to it. Good job. **Guinastasia** , you can try to tapdance around it, but you just called a man a liar based simply on the fact that his story exceeded your limited experiences. I think that says quite a bit about _your_ character. That’s all I have to say about that. [/QUOTE] And yet, you can’t accept that expressing skepticisim!=calling someone a liar? ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/189 "2007-12-11T03:24:31Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] the whole thing together sounded suspicious [/QUOTE] So what if it sounded suspicious? Does that mean you should open your fat mouth and say so? Especially in the absence of proof? Don’t you think a person deserves the benefit of the doubt? Or do you simply blurt out everything that comes to mind like a 4 year old? Do you also walk up to ugly people and tell them how ugly they are? Rude indeed… ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/190 "2007-12-11T03:27:32Z")
[QUOTE=Crafter\_Man] So what if it sounded suspicious? Does that mean you should open your fat mouth and say so? Do you also walk up to ugly people and tell them how ugly they are? Rude indeed… [/QUOTE] If this is the rudest thing you’ve ever read in the Pit, I suggest you do make use of the search function. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/191 "2007-12-11T03:34:48Z")
[QUOTE=Crafter\_Man] So what if it sounded suspicious? Does that mean you should open your fat mouth and say so? Especially in the absence of proof? Don’t you think a person deserves the benefit of the doubt? Or do you simply blurt out everything that comes to mind like a 4 year old? Do you also walk up to ugly people and tell them how ugly they are? Rude indeed… [/QUOTE] Please. She expressed mild skepticism, mild being the keyword. It’s amazing the amount of venom being thrown around because somebody (or is it just because it’s guin) stated that his story seemed a bit off. To be honest, I thought it was odd as well. Wouldn’t be the first time somebody lied on the internet to get attention. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/192 "2007-12-11T03:35:18Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] And yet, you can’t accept that expressing skepticisim!=calling someone a liar? [/QUOTE] Look, it’s O.K. to be skeptical about things like global warming. But it’s downright foolish and rude to be skeptical toward someone claiming to be a SEAL and witnessing lazy police behavior. Yea, maybe there have only been 10,000 SEALs. Do you know for a fact he’s _not_ one of them? I have met quite a few people who claim to have been in the Green Beret, Navy SEALS, etc. To be sure, I have been skeptical about some of their claims. But it would never occur to me to say to their face that I’m “skeptical” without _any_ evidence or proof. Such would be exceedingly rude, IMO. Besides, even if they’re lying to me, it’s no skin off my back, so what is to gain by making an accusation? ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/193 "2007-12-11T03:38:30Z")
[QUOTE=Crafter\_Man] Look, it’s O.K. to be skeptical about things like global warming. But it’s downright foolish and rude to be skeptical toward someone claiming to be a SEAL and witnessing lazy police behavior. Yea, maybe there have only been 10,000 SEALs. Do you know for a fact he’s _not_ one of them? I have met quite a few people who claim to have been in the Green Beret, Navy SEALS, etc. To be sure, I have been skeptical about some of their claims. But it would never occur to me to say to their face that I’m “skeptical” without _any_ evidence or proof. Such would be exceedingly rude, IMO. Besides, even if they’re lying to me, it’s no skin off my back, so what is to gain by making an accusation? [/QUOTE] Only been 10,00 SEALS and it’s not okay to be a little skeptical of somebody claiming to be one over the internet? Ignoring a woman threatening everyone in sight with a bat (or two) is lazy police behavior? Wanna buy a bridge there buddy? Sell ya one real cheap. Just remember, not believing me and/or not sending me money would be rude. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/194 "2007-12-11T03:42:03Z")
[QUOTE=Harborwolf] (or is it just because it’s guin) [/QUOTE] I’m pretty sure this is what it is. It’s quite obvious that those who are coming in running with the attacks on her have a bit of a preexisting hostility towards **Guin**. Like I said, it’s fine to not like a poster, but save the venom for a time when it is a little more warranted. She was more than mild with her question, just as I think I was. Actually, before I posted any of my earlier replies, I went back and reedited them several times so as not to come out sounding too accusatory. In her original post she did the little dubious smiley, right? Ok, that was maybe a little over the top, but that’s no big deal. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/195 "2007-12-11T03:48:42Z")
[QUOTE=DiosaBellissima] In her original post she did the little dubious smiley, right? Ok, that was maybe a little over the top, but that’s no big deal. [/QUOTE] Smiley? Didn’t know that. Release the hounds. Light the pitchforks. Every mob for themselves and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/196 "2007-12-11T03:53:47Z")
But it’s not just _this one thing_ with Guin. It’s a pattern with her. You’d think she’s had so many comments backfire on her by now that she’d have learned to either shut the fuck up or at least be less of a dumb bitch if she must post. Apparently not- and that’s precisely the reason why people go ballistic on her when she fucks up _yet again_. She never learns. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/197 "2007-12-11T03:58:55Z")
Right, but see- what you just said, is exactly the point I’m making. Everyone runs in to attack her because they have their axes to grind, but in reality, this is probably the least logical time to do it. The comment she made in this thread was mild and - since I agree with her, of course- not terribly out of line (imho and all that). If she’s as evil as everyone thinks, surely a time will come where you can light the torches and gather the mobs. Right now is not really that time- in fact, it seems a little silly how everyone is absolutely mauling her over an innocent comment. She’s not the one coming out of this looking petty. And honestly, for a bunch of people who constantly complain that she is an attention whore, you guys all managed to take a perfectly innocent post of hers and turn the whole thread into a Guin-Centric discussion. She didn’t do that herself. Good job on that one. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/198 "2007-12-11T04:00:51Z")
[QUOTE=Alice The Goon] But it’s not just _this one thing_ with Guin. It’s a pattern with her. You’d think she’s had so many comments backfire on her by now that she’d have learned to either shut the fuck up or at least be less of a dumb bitch if she must post. Apparently not- and that’s precisely the reason why people go ballistic on her when she fucks up _yet again_. She never learns. [/QUOTE] So then Pit me and quit hijacking this thread, already. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/199 "2007-12-11T04:02:02Z")
[QUOTE=Alice The Goon] But it’s not just _this one thing_ with Guin. It’s a pattern with her. You’d think she’s had so many comments backfire on her by now that she’d have learned to either shut the fuck up or at least be less of a dumb bitch if she must post. Apparently not- and that’s precisely the reason why people go ballistic on her when she fucks up _yet again_. She never learns. [/QUOTE] As has already been pointed out, there is good cause to be skeptical here. How exactly was Guin being a “dumb bitch?” ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305/200 "2007-12-11T04:03:04Z")
Well, the OP’s long gone and didn’t even look back, so I figured, why waste a perfectly good Pit Thread? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attack-of-the-crazy-woman/429305.md?page=11)