# Attempted Coup in Turkey
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [July 15, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001 "2016-07-15T20:27:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/1 "2016-07-15T20:27:51Z")
> **[Turkey coup attempt: Erdoğan demands US arrest exiled cleric Gülen amid...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara)**
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> Action taken to reinstate constitutional order, human rights and freedoms, say armed forces
Looks like a coup is underway. Twitter and other social media feeds are down.
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### Author:  [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/2 "2016-07-15T20:32:42Z")
Istanbul airport is on lock down by military. Tanks and low flying helicopters in the area.
Reports of shots being fired on the streets and police being disarmed by the military.
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### Author:  [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/3 "2016-07-15T20:37:29Z")
Turkish General Army Staff officially declares it seized the power in Turkey
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### Author:  [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/4 "2016-07-15T20:37:39Z")
Turkish military is claiming they have taken over the country.
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### Author:  [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/5 "2016-07-15T20:37:56Z")
Routers:
Military:
“We have taken over Turkey”.
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### Author:  [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/6 "2016-07-15T20:38:38Z")
So what does this mean?
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### Author:  [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/7 "2016-07-15T20:39:19Z")
News feed:
> **[Turkey coup attempt: Erdoğan demands US arrest exiled cleric Gülen amid...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara)**
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> Action taken to reinstate constitutional order, human rights and freedoms, say armed forces
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/8 "2016-07-15T20:39:28Z")
> [@ivylass](#):
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> So what does this mean?
No gravy for you!
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### Author:  [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/9 "2016-07-15T20:42:14Z")
That’s okay. I never much cared for giblets anyway.
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### Author:  [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/10 "2016-07-15T20:44:04Z")
Isn’t the Turkish military noted for opposing the pro-Islamic policies of the government? (even though the government is democratically elected)
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### Author:  [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/11 "2016-07-15T20:46:44Z")
So is this because Turkey is too repressive or not repressive enough?
What are NATO’s obligations here?
What are the political/religious leanings of the military?
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### Author:  [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/12 "2016-07-15T20:47:12Z")
My guess is that the coup will not succeed, as they haven’t apparently been able to arrest the senior members of the gov’t.
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### Author:  [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/13 "2016-07-15T20:49:26Z")
It’s worth noting that the UK is heavily invested in Turkey. Mrs. May is probably wishing that Cameron had dilly-dallied for a week. She’s not going to sleep for the next 24 hours.
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### Author:  [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/14 "2016-07-15T20:49:48Z")
The prime minister is apparently still communicating from somewhere, so the military hasn’t swept up all the key civilians – yet.
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### Author:  [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/15 "2016-07-15T20:49:53Z")
> [@Malthus](#):
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> My guess is that the coup will not succeed, as they haven’t apparently been able to arrest the senior members of the gov’t.
I suspect this post will be outdated in about 10 minutes.
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### Author:  [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/16 "2016-07-15T20:50:25Z")
Had there ever been a coup in an active NATO member country? Maybe Greece?
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### Author:  [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/17 "2016-07-15T20:50:33Z")
> [@Malthus](#):
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> My guess is that the coup will not succeed, as they haven’t apparently been able to arrest the senior members of the gov’t.
I also don’t feel like the Turkish people would go for it. From what I could tell, when I was there, they were all highly invested in their country, and purportedly Erdogan is quite popular (even if I personally think he’s a buffoon).
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### Author:  [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/18 "2016-07-15T20:52:24Z")
> [@levdrakon](#):
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> So is this because Turkey is too repressive or not repressive enough?
Erdogan’s style of leadership is probably part of the cause: he’s an authoritarian.
> [@](#):
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> What are NATO’s obligations here?
None. Both Turkey and Greece have had coups before, while being NATO members.
> [@](#):
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> What are the political/religious leanings of the military?
Traditionally secular.
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### Author:  [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/19 "2016-07-15T20:53:06Z")
> [@levdrakon](#):
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> What are NATO’s obligations here?
It’s not the first coup or attempted coup in the time Turkey has been a Nato member, so wait and see I guess.
> [@](#):
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> What are the political/religious leanings of the military?
Secular, Kemalist (modernizing, pro-Western basically), at least in the past. It’s a bit early to say here though I guess.
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### Author:  [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attempted-coup-in-turkey/760001/20 "2016-07-15T20:54:03Z")
What does the military have against the Prime Minister? I’m trying to understand the ramifications.
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