# Attention anti health-care reformers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 8, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745 "2009-11-08T00:21:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/61 "2009-11-08T08:35:26Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > You used tiny font. That means that you’re a 12 year old troll. Hey, I don’t start many memes around here. This one won’t last, but I at least want the credit for it. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/62 "2009-11-08T08:36:54Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Hey, I don’t start many memes around here. This one won’t last, but I at least want the credit for it. Huh? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/63 "2009-11-08T15:56:53Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Sorry, only microcephalics can qualify for that feature. Well, really, who doesn’t like a little head? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/64 "2009-11-08T16:20:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Almost forgot! One Pubbie vote, that Louisiana guy. So, bipartisan. (snicker!) What a conundrum for the GOP. Either ostracize and expel the heretic, or continue to embrace their token Asian. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/65 "2009-11-08T16:22:04Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Huh? He was the first to post Republicans bad! in a small font size… credit where credit is due. I got yer back Robot Arm. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/66 "2009-11-08T17:48:28Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Which reminds me, is there a font size measured in microns? Would that come with a premium membership? [Windows XP](http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/accessibility/magnifierturnon.mspx) and [Vista](http://www.microsoft.com/enable/training/windowsvista/magnifier.aspx)both provide helpful features for… those who might need help. No, really, glad to assist! ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/67 "2009-11-08T18:19:22Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > He was the first to post Republicans bad! in a small font size… credit where credit is due. I got yer back Robot Arm. 😉 Oh, I get it now. OK, Robot Arm is a 12 year old troll too. There, feel better? 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/68 "2009-11-08T18:57:37Z")
Well, okay then. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/69 "2009-11-08T20:15:20Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Well, really, who doesn’t like a little head? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/70 "2009-11-08T20:50:10Z")
> [@ghardester](#): > > My support of the federal government’s involvement in a heath care reform plan was lost when it became clear that the only way the program could succeed was through forced measures. > > I’m am talking about, 'You WILL buy health care or be fined". That is just a deal killer for me. Not a party line, just a deal killer with me personally. > > Yes, I pay my taxes. But it is in no way clear to me that buying health insurance can be a mandated part of living in the USA. You will never get me to wrap my mind around that idea. > Good luck on implimenting it, though. Do you face penalties if you do not carry car insurance? Same idea. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/71 "2009-11-08T20:56:34Z")
> [@Pullet](#): > > Will an open relationship as part of a 10 person commune work? Only if the 10 are legal, children don’t get counted towards the total. Oh, and if size=7 equals trolling, I’d like to invite **Carol Stream** to drop by the MMP next time it’s somebody’s birthday and bring the Brooklyn Bridge with her. I mean, that many trolls need a lot of bridge to live under! ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/72 "2009-11-08T20:57:41Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Do you face penalties if you do not carry car insurance? Same idea. No, you don’t face any penalties if you don’t have car insurance. Not same idea. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/73 "2009-11-08T21:46:21Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > No, you don’t face any penalties if you don’t have car insurance. Not same idea. Yes you do. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/74 "2009-11-08T21:46:36Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > No, you don’t face any penalties if you don’t have car insurance. What? [http://www.auto-insurance-guide-online.com/penalty-for-driving-without-insurance.html](http://www.auto-insurance-guide-online.com/penalty-for-driving-without-insurance.html) ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/75 "2009-11-08T22:03:53Z")
Darn it, Drain Bead beat me to it. I guess the big difference is that you aren’t required to own a car, so in that case you could get out of owning car insurance. (Good luck getting by without a car in a majority of cases though.) Nobody will be able to get out of health insurance. How fucking sinister is that? Next it is going to be a microchip in your neck :rolleyes: Oh, and I want to get in on the spirit of this thing- The Republicans are poo-poo heads! ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/76 "2009-11-08T22:15:48Z")
I’m also required to pay taxes to pay for any number of things I don’t approve of and there are penalties for not doing that. Hell, we give tax breaks for children rather than make parents pay extra taxes to make up for the cost of educating them. I’m forced to do that. In this case, the govt has decided to go with a market-oriented solution rather than a public one, and they are being criticized. It’s fine by me to provide health insurance out of the public fund and raise taxes to pay for it. I’ll come out ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/77 "2009-11-08T23:23:11Z")
To share some sympathy with the OP- I was listening to NPR the other day and some GOP apologist was being confronted with the results from a rather large number of polls, all indicating that a big majority of Americans are in favor of UHC. His response was something like, ‘Well I was in polling for years, and I know that they don’t always represent the truth. You can get positive poll numbers for a thing… but in this case, Americans just don’t understand what UHC _really means_. I mean, if you took a poll asking if people would like to have a helicopter pad in their yard so they could be flown to work every day in 4 minutes, that would poll very well, but the idea isn’t practical.’ Yah, UHC is Just Like a helicopter for every American, asshole. Thanks for your paternalistic end-around the democratic process by declaring that Americans are all a bunch of idiots and therefore should be ignored while fuckwads like You make the decision instead. God-double-damn it, I was so fucking pissed I… I feel a rant coming on. Fuck! The pubbies are bald-faced liars and deceivers!!! ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/78 "2009-11-08T23:39:32Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Oh, and if size=7 equals trolling, I’d like to invite **Carol Stream** to drop by the MMP next time it’s somebody’s birthday and bring the Brooklyn Bridge with her. And that’s the point. This is not Mundane Pointless Shit I Must Share. Why are you dragging MPSIMS crap (like oversized fonts, exclamation points, etc.) into the Pit? You already have a forum for such nonsense. Seriously, if you can answer that question honestly, I’d like to hear it. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/79 "2009-11-08T23:43:51Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > To share some sympathy with the OP- > I was listening to NPR the other day and some GOP apologist was being confronted with the results from a rather large number of polls, all indicating that a big majority of Americans are in favor of UHC. 42% is a majority? a big majority? > **[Health Care Reform](https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform)** > > Speaker Nancy Pelosi has scheduled a House of Representatives vote today on the health care reform plan proposed by the President Obama and congressional Democrats. Yet while in Congress there has been months of posturing and shifting of political... ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745/80 "2009-11-08T23:47:09Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > And that’s the point. This is not Mundane Pointless Shit I Must Share. Why are you dragging MPSIMS crap (like oversized fonts, exclamation points, etc.) into the Pit? You already have a forum for such nonsense. > > Seriously, if you can answer that question honestly, I’d like to hear it. Why So SERIOUS? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-anti-health-care-reformers/516745.md?page=5)