# Attention Hetero's: Please take back America

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 11, 2004, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608 "2004-02-11T05:09:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/41 "2004-02-11T16:50:07Z")

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> [@Brandus](#):
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> I’m sorry it took me a while to respond, I had to supress my gag reflex. It’s behavior like this why we’re gay in the first place.

If only you had the love of a good woman you could have been saved 😉

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/42 "2004-02-11T16:51:01Z")

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Anyone else hear the OP being read in the voice of Mr. Garrison?

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/43 "2004-02-11T16:53:49Z")

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How is Crank Yankers gay?

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/44 "2004-02-11T17:03:42Z")

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> [@Brandus](#):
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> It’s behavior like this why we’re gay in the first place.  
> \<snip\>  
> I’d rather be a nullo than by pussy-whipped!

Huh? I’m straight, so I can’t really say, but isn’t this the exact stereotype gay people are trying to get rid of? That it’s (being gay) a choice?

And it’s rather ridiculous that you think “women holding dominion over men through sex is the most degrading thing ever.” I’d like to remind you of a time, not more than 50-100 years in the past, when sex was the only tool women ever had over men - because men put them there and women allowed themselves to be put there. If a man allows himself to be pussy-whipped it’s his own damn fault.

Anyway, if this is all a big joke, sorry.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/45 "2004-02-11T17:04:57Z")

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> [@Brandus](#):
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> I’m sorry it took me a while to respond, I had to supress my gag reflex. It’s behavior like this why we’re gay in the first place. Women trying to hold dominion over males through sex is the most degrading thing ever in the history of everything. Oh no! She won’t lift up her skirt for me! Must bow to her will!
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> I’d rather be a nullo than by pussy-whipped!

I so confoooosed! Are you saying that women who use sexual blackmail are the cause of homosexuality? That’s just funny.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/46 "2004-02-11T17:09:05Z")

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> [@DeaganTheWolf](#):
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> Or possibly, it could be code for "Those gays who insist on screaming about how gay they are at every oppourtunity, regardless of whether or not they are in accepting or supporting company.

…because it’s only reasonable that we should determine whether or not our lives may be acceptably lived by what company we’re in.

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> That percentage of the community and culture that embarrasses the other majority by their constant whinging about persecution and unacceptace and over compensates for it by behaviour that’s obnoxious by ANY standard."

…because persecution and unacceptance are no longer problems, therefore any discussion of them is whinging.

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> I don’t see why it’s not acceptable to be a little tired of hearing about Gay rights. For those of us who DO support the cause and don’t give a crap if you’re gay or not, the rhetoric gets boring.

How exactly are we supposed to promote the cause if not to talk about it? And why shouldn’t I talk about it regardless of the state of the cause? Nobody ever gets on my case for talking about being Canadian.

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> We want to know all the facets of your personality, not just the bit that needs to scream “Im here, I’m queer and I’m not gonna dissappear!” all day long.

Well, sorry. It’s not gonna disappear.

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> Not every Hetero supporter feels the need to be an activist. If it comes to votes I cast mine in favor of Gay Rights, and that’s as far as i’m interested in it.

Well, I appreciate your support. I’ll be sure to read your mind and be quiet about being queer when around you from now on. While I’m taking notes, are there any other parts of my personality you’d prefer not to have to deal with? I’m running a special on keeping my religious affiliation and ethnic background under wraps right now.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/47 "2004-02-11T17:13:16Z")

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> [@DeaganTheWolf](#):
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> Not every Hetero supporter feels the need to be an activist. If it comes to votes I cast mine in favor of Gay Rights, and that’s as far as i’m interested in it. Why? well I don’t have a personal interest in it. I agree that the OP is whinging about something trivial though.

Just a thought, hon. Maybe if our “hetero supporters” did a little more to, say, prevent our rights from coming up for a vote in the first place, some of us on the other side of the sexuality fence wouldn’t feel the need to be quite so noisy.

> [@Super Gnat](#):
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> Actually, I was looking for a cite of some sort. IIRC he has consistently maintained that he is het, and if I’m mistaken then I’d like to know about it.

The one time I’m aware of that he’s been asked he ignored the question like it hadn’t even been asked.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/48 "2004-02-11T17:19:12Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **Attention, heteros: Please take back America.**

We’re not taking it back until you get rid of those slipcovers. And the throw pillows.

> [@Brandus](#):
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> I had to supress my gag reflex.

Oh, quit bragging about your sex life.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/49 "2004-02-11T17:47:03Z")

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> [@Brandus](#):
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> ergle : I didnt come across as queeny as I meant to, I was asking the big burly men and big breasted’ed women here to take back the media for THEIR sake, I am definately not a ‘breeder’. I’m sick of the media for the same reasons that if I was Black, I wouldnt want to watch BET all the time. So this is an open invitation to rid the channels of the Fab 5, gay marriage polls, and Clay Aiken. On behalf of my kind, we won’t miss them.

Hi. Just wanted to clarify. Are you talking about heterosexuals? Or just big breasted women and burly men who procreate for a living?

I’m a little confused.

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**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/50 "2004-02-11T18:01:28Z")

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> [@Siege](#):
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> You know, I am a big-breasted, straight woman who loves big, burly men who are a bit macho. I even love and understand football, though not quite as much as I enjoy sex (hey, two balls are better than one!). I also don’t understand why women don’t enjoy giving blowjobs. I’m also quite definitely pro-homosexual, if such a position exists.
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> **Brandus** , a post like yours makes it clear to me, that, much as I enjoy men, I will never have sex with you. It’s a bit of a shame. You see, I think giving guys multiple orgasms is fun!
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> CJ

Am I being wooshed here?

Something tells me that sashaying into the Pit and selling heterosexual sex as if it were the filet mignon of human interaction is not only crass, but serves to add credence to an already grating “AAGGH, STUPID BREEDERS!” mentality.

Enjoy your "How YOU doin?"s, sweetie.

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**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/51 "2004-02-11T18:09:12Z")

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Sorry, folks. I had my blinders on and read the OP as another straight man complaining about homosexuals and the threat they pose to whatever it is they pose a threat to. In other words, oh, boy have I been whooshed, especially since I never watch the shows the OP refers to. Trust me, I get as annoyed with women who use sex as a form of blackmail as anyone. It’s just that, while my intent was to take aim at bigotry (and maybe get a mention in the "  
Damn \_\_\_s Hot!" thread in MPSIMS), I shot myself in the foot instead.

As for the rest of you gentlemen, I’ll get back to you after work! 😉

CJ

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/52 "2004-02-11T18:10:20Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> How exactly are we supposed to promote the cause if not to talk about it? And why shouldn’t I talk about it regardless of the state of the cause? Nobody ever gets on my case for talking about being Canadian.

Huh. I had no idea that Canadians were being oppressed. Well, you learn something new every day.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/53 "2004-02-11T18:23:35Z")

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Hardy hardy har. Obviously what I meant is, nobody ever complains when I discuss being Canadian; I don’t see why they complain when I discuss being gay, regardless of what the discussion might have to do with politics.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/54 "2004-02-11T18:36:37Z")

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> [@Brandus](#):
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> I’m sorry it took me a while to respond, I had to supress my gag reflex. It’s behavior like this why we’re gay in the first place. Women trying to hold dominion over males through sex is the most degrading thing ever in the history of everything. Oh no! She won’t lift up her skirt for me! Must bow to her will!

Are you for fucking real? Or are you just naturally this egregiously stupid? You seem to be saying that homosexuality is a choice, despite the fact that the majority of researchers agree that it is not. Homosexuality occurs in other species, even those without the capacity to rationalize it. Please, engage your brain before shooting your mouth off.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/55 "2004-02-11T19:09:01Z")

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And by the way, thanks for the insult. Not all of us find the term “breeders” hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/56 "2004-02-11T19:19:06Z")

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Sorry about the lawnchair faux pas.

Personally, I can’t wait until media starts focusing on overweight women of all races who are over 40 and suffering from menopause… Imagine an entire Reality TV show about these women eating carbs, discuss hot flashes and trying on swimsuits.

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**Author:** ![DeaganTheWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DeaganTheWolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeaganTheWolf)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/57 "2004-02-11T19:46:48Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> Hardy hardy har. Obviously what I meant is, nobody ever complains when I discuss being Canadian; I don’t see why they complain when I discuss being gay, regardless of what the discussion might have to do with politics.

Here let me use an example. I didn’t meant that you ought NEVER talk about it, just not ALWAYS talk about it. Suppose you had a co-worker who was a nascar fan. Nascar then gets banned for not being family friendly and fans continue to undergroud race anyway. All your co-worker talks about is How badly persecuted he is and how misunderstood nascar is by the general public. All the time. He always finds a way to turn the conversation to Nascar, no matter that his coworkers are nascar fans too, but don’t particularily care if it gets re-instated. He insists that nascar was the ONLY way to live and if you don’t support it, your just a bigot. Moreover if you have the temerity to say;“let’s talka bout something else today okay?” you too must be a bigot and a prude. Sheesh.  
If it’s your lifestyle that’s great, i don’t grudge it too you, but I don’t want it in my face constantly either. It doesn’t matterr if it’s gay rights, or evangelical christians, it gets ANNOYING. Chill, and you’ll get far more acceptance.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/58 "2004-02-11T19:52:56Z")

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> [@Shirley Ujest](#):
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> Imagine an entire Reality TV show about these women eating carbs, discuss hot flashes and trying on swimsuits.

It’ll be called Diane’s Big Fat Life.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/59 "2004-02-11T20:57:01Z")

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> [@Siege](#):
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> and maybe get a mention in the “Damn \_\_\_s Hot!” thread in MPSIMS

You gotta keep up, CJ! I’d given you a mention there just yesterday.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/60 "2004-02-11T21:19:26Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> nobody ever complains when I discuss being Canadia

Maybe not _out loud_ they don’t.  
I am sick of having Canadian agendas and Canadian lifestyles forced upon me.

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