# Attention Hetero's: Please take back America **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2004, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608 "2004-02-11T05:09:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/61 "2004-02-11T22:02:20Z")
> [@Diane](#): > > It’ll be called Diane’s Big Fat Life. Hah! Sadly, I am nearly there as well. Solidarity! Together, we can take over the world…but first, lets eat a donut! ---
**Author:** ![Brandus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@Brandus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brandus)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/62 "2004-02-11T22:12:06Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > You seem to be saying that homosexuality is a choice, despite the fact that the majority of researchers agree that it is not. Go back to General Questions with your facts and figures, Mr. “20 posts per day”. I say it’s because as a little boy I didn’t want to spend my whole life chasing poon-tang. Best (non) decision I ever made, so nyah! ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/63 "2004-02-11T22:22:57Z")
So…you’re gay because you didn’t want to get rejected by women? You’ve never chased cock? GUYS never USE SEX FOR BLACKMAIL? Give me a fucking break. ---
**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/64 "2004-02-11T22:43:45Z")
> [@jarbabyj](#): > > And by the way, thanks for the insult. Not all of us find the term “breeders” hilarious. Amen. I’ve posed this question to a gay friend who felt the term was endearing. He said, “Well, that’s what you guys do… it’s not offensive.” I don’t think he really thought that through though because now I call him buttfucker. What? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/65 "2004-02-11T22:44:11Z")
I’d just like to add that, while I was drawn to **Siege** ’s boob and BJ references, any possibility of her putatively using them to moderate my opinions into something more acceptable was right out of the question. I am, after all, just enough of a macho man not to submit to being pussy-whipped. That said, actually some of us _do_ think het sex really is all that 😛 ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/66 "2004-02-11T23:13:59Z")
So, are we using “breeder” to mean “hetero folks who have or want to have children”, or are we using it to mean “all hetero folks, even the ones who’d rather slit their own throats than reproduce”? It makes a difference in the type of programming you’re likely to see when they take over, so I’d kind of like to know what to expect, is all. ---
**Author:** ![FaerieBeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@FaerieBeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FaerieBeth)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/67 "2004-02-11T23:31:55Z")
Breeders. That’s what my grandfather called the healthy Hereford heifers on the back lot at the farm. I’d rather not have that term applied to me, but if people want to be rude and classless, you can’t do much to stop them. FB ---
**Author:** ![Ana\_Byrd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ana\_Byrd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ana_Byrd)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/68 "2004-02-11T23:51:07Z")
Rejoice, all ye heathens. (I love that line.) I have the perfect plan. I propose that for six days each week, no suggestion of any kind of sexuality be allowed in the media. Everyone must forget that there is such a thing as sex. The seventh day will be reserved for all manner of screwing, lap-dancing, etc. This may seem unnecessarily harsh, but when I am queen both queers and breeders (who will get along just fine most of the week) will thank me for it. I propose this because all this non-stop talk of sexuality (homo- and hetero-) gets a little boring eventually. Even underwater. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/69 "2004-02-12T00:00:11Z")
Oh geeze, are we now adding “breeder” to the list of words that people are supposed to take offense at, and if used will then degenerate the thread from its original subject to discussions of whether the word should have been used or not? Don’t we have enough words on that list? ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/70 "2004-02-12T00:37:38Z")
While the **Gay Guy** gently weeps… ☹ Esprix ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/71 "2004-02-12T00:41:47Z")
> [@DeaganTheWolf](#): > > It doesn’t matterr if it’s gay rights, or evangelical christians, it gets ANNOYING. It gets annoying to you to hear about it? Imagine how annoying (and worse. Oh, how) it is to have YOUR rights VOTED UPON by people who obviously have no fucking clue what you’re about. It would be like a blind ferret voting to bring back NASCAR; blind ferrets have no fucking clue either way. In many cases it’s the **exact same fucking thing** with non-heterosexuality and politics. They have NO CLUE WHATSOEVER. They think it’s this degenerate sinful lifestyle that has to be kept in check or the whole nation will just spontaneously burst into flames. Oh, and the children. Something about the children. > [@](#): > > Chill, and you’ll get far more acceptance. Yeah, totally. Or, you know, just ignored. The best way to guarantee you don’t get anything from someone who doesn’t know who you are is to just sit and do nothing. Lord knows it worked for women’s lib, black rights, rights of children, Europe during WWI and WWII, etc. All chock full of people who sat and did nothing and got exactly what they wanted. > [@](#): > > I’d rather not have that term [breeder] applied to me, but if people want to be rude and classless, you can’t do much to stop them. You want rude and classless? Try DOMA, sweety. Try legislation to make damn well sure you can’t marry the human consenting adult you love. Try being within earshot of hearing people who will eventually be your relatives talking about the nice, fiery home for homosexuals when they die. Bigots have EONS of experience being rude and classless. We couldn’t catch up to them with Big Gay Al’s Big Gay Flux Capacitor. ---
**Author:** ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/72 "2004-02-12T00:58:45Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > The one time I’m aware of that he’s been asked he ignored the question like it hadn’t even been asked. I thought I remembered him deny it in his Diane Sawyer interview last fall (click on “Interview 10/09/03” under “Primetime Thursday” to see the interview; I couldn’t find a transcript, but it’s near the beginning). Listening to it now, interestingly he _doesn’t_ give an outright no, though he refers to a potential mate as “she” and doesn’t believe people should automatically assume he’s gay because of his manner. According to the Primetime Special, he said no in his Rolling Stones interview, but that’s not available online so I can’t confirm it. At any rate, it’s a bit of a stretch to lump him in with gay entertainment, since he’s obviously either heterosexual, bisexual, or in the closet. ---
**Author:** ![DeaganTheWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DeaganTheWolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeaganTheWolf)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/73 "2004-02-12T01:00:49Z")
Oh for fuck’s sake. Do you think I’m really so thick as to NOT realize that there is a VERY REAL problem with Gay Rights in the USA? All I’m saying is that it might help if people saw Gays as PEOPLE first and GAY second. I grew up with Uncle Ken and “Uncle Joey”. It never occured to me until I KNEW what gay was that they were gay! They weren’t in the closet, Ken was quite fem, but neither were they so flaming and in your face that you couldn’t help but view them as “the gay uncles”. Get it? I saw them as people first and Gay second. It didn’t matter that they were gay to me because they did all the things that everyone else did. We were not treated to a gay rights tirade every time I went to visit, which was often; nor did they make a big deal out of their lifestyle. Uncle ken even taught sunday school at our church, which teaches that homosexuality is a sin. They made burgers, went to work, had parties, listened to music, enjoyed some sports, went to art openings \ and generally were like everyone else except that they happened to be gay. Nobody Cared! I’m tired of getting dumped on because someone annoys me. One trick ponies no matter what the trick get TIRESOME. ---
**Author:** ![FaerieBeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@FaerieBeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FaerieBeth)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/74 "2004-02-12T01:59:14Z")
> [@iampunha](#): > > You want rude and classless? Try DOMA, sweety. Try legislation to make damn well sure you can’t marry the human consenting adult you love. Try being within earshot of hearing people who will eventually be your relatives talking about the nice, fiery home for homosexuals when they die. > > Bigots have EONS of experience being rude and classless. We couldn’t catch up to them with Big Gay Al’s Big Gay Flux Capacitor. I’m going to be quite honest and express my confusion over why I am being attacked as a DOMA supporter because I’d rather not be called a ‘breeder’. Explanations? You have no idea where I stand on these issues. You have also assumed ignorance on my part. All because I said I didn’t relish a certain less-than-endearing term, you assumed that I gave a pass to all the high-minded, high-horsed, self-righteous busy bodies who have no business sticking their noses into other people’s personal lives. Could you please sketch out this leap of logic for me? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/75 "2004-02-12T02:04:10Z")
> [@Brandus](#): > > I’m sorry it took me a while to respond, I had to supress my gag reflex. It’s behavior like this why we’re gay in the first place. Women trying to hold dominion over males through sex is the most degrading thing ever in the history of everything. Oh no! She won’t lift up her skirt for me! Must bow to her will! > > I’d rather be a nullo than by pussy-whipped! Now there’s a stereotype you don’t see much anymore: the misogynistic queen. Can’t say I’ve really missed it, either. ---
**Author:** ![Morrigoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@Morrigoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morrigoon)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/76 "2004-02-12T02:05:19Z")
> [@Shirley Ujest](#): > > Personally, I can’t wait until media starts focusing on overweight women of all races who are over 40 and suffering from menopause… Imagine an entire Reality TV show about these women eating carbs, discuss hot flashes and trying on swimsuits. Actually, the Cathy comic has been around for ages. (yeah yeah, I know she’s unmarried an in her 30’s but she does talk about diet foods and bathing suits, and seems to sweat A LOT) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/77 "2004-02-12T02:12:42Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Oh geeze, are we now adding “breeder” to the list of words that people are supposed to take offense at, and if used will then degenerate the thread from its original subject to discussions of whether the word should have been used or not? > > Don’t we have enough words on that list? No, we won’t, because I’m officially giving permission on behalf of all heterosexuals everywhere that they’re allowed to use the term breeder as much as they want. Anyone who complains is designated a Fucking Whiner, and may be safely ignored. Stay tuned for forthcoming announcements on the terms “honky” and “cracker.” Signing out. Miller President of the International Association of Honky Breeders ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/78 "2004-02-12T02:32:47Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > No, we won’t, because I’m officially giving permission on behalf of all heterosexuals everywhere that they’re allowed to use the term breeder as much as they want. Anyone who complains is designated a Fucking Whiner, and may be safely ignored. > > Stay tuned for forthcoming announcements on the terms “honky” and “cracker.” > > Signing out. > Miller > President of the International Association of Honky Breeders Good job **Miller**! You have my vote next PIAHB election. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/79 "2004-02-12T02:34:07Z")
Of course, I meant IAHB. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608/80 "2004-02-12T02:44:04Z")
So, **Miller** , is there enough of a market for honkeys that breeding them is profitable, or do you just do it as a hobby? Does your organization have a newsletter where I could learn more about honkey breeding? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-heteros-please-take-back-america/228608.md?page=5)