# ATTENTION: Legion Of Bronze Members! Doc Savage is back in print!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-legion-of-bronze-members-doc-savage-is-back-in-print/261120>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 23, 2004, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-legion-of-bronze-members-doc-savage-is-back-in-print/261120 "2004-08-23T18:24:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-legion-of-bronze-members-doc-savage-is-back-in-print/261120/41 "2004-09-03T22:34:46Z")

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Apparently they have some form of permission–I think they found some sort of loophole.

Here is there e-mail to me.

> [@](#):
>
> ## Blackmask Online
> 
> Order Number: 1450  
> Detailed Invoice:  
> [https://www.blackmask.com/catalo/account\_history\_info.php?order\_id=](https://www.blackmask.com/catalo/account_history_info.php?order_id=) **XXX**  
> Date Ordered: Thursday 02 September, 2004
> 
> The comments for your order are
> 
> I have permissions, such as are needed, from the rights agent for Conde Nast.  
> (and from the representative for Mr. Endore’s estate.) Thanks!
> 
> Your order has been updated to the following status.
> 
> New status: Shipped
> 
> Please reply to this email if you have any questions.
> 
> _edited by **Bosda** to remove order # for privacy_

I guess that it is at least semi-legit.

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2004, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-legion-of-bronze-members-doc-savage-is-back-in-print/261120/42 "2004-09-03T22:40:01Z")

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> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#):
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> [http://www.blackmask.com/catalo/advanced\_search\_result.php?keywords=doc+savage&search\_in\_description=1&x=12&y=10](http://www.blackmask.com/catalo/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=doc+savage&search_in_description=1&x=12&y=10)
> 
> YES! [Blackmask.com](http://Blackmask.com) is reprinting Doc Savage!
> 
> If anybody’s greatful for the news, buy me one! 😃😉😛

So is this Doc, gay, straight, bi or neuter?  
_ **Curse you Philip Jose Farmer!!!** _

😃 :eek:

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**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2004, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-legion-of-bronze-members-doc-savage-is-back-in-print/261120/43 "2004-09-04T05:00:25Z")

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> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#):
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> I guess that it is at least semi-legit.

Well, I supose the question is: can you live with it?

That he actually anwered your email is good (and you’ve got a paper trail should this turn out to be illegal).

It appears that the case is closed!

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2004, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-legion-of-bronze-members-doc-savage-is-back-in-print/261120/44 "2004-09-04T21:12:34Z")

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> [@Chairman Pow](#):
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> Well, I supose the question is: can you live with it?
> 
> That he actually anwered your email is good (and you’ve got a paper trail should this turn out to be illegal).
> 
> It appears that the case is closed!

He has claimed a right to publish, and listed the source.  
I am satified, until something compelling persuades me otherwise.

I will order more volumes, as I believe there is a legal basis for publication.

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-legion-of-bronze-members-doc-savage-is-back-in-print/261120/45 "2004-09-15T14:16:02Z")

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Well, Bosda, you may be right after all. Here’s what David Moynihan, who runs Black Mask, had to say about the reprints on the alf.fan.doc-savage newsgroup, and frankly if he pulls this off I’ll consider it a victory for the Little Guy. I absolutely loath and despise Time-Warner and Disney for the way they’ve raped the copyright laws. (I’ve edited for length.)

> [@](#):
>
> When they cracked down earlier this year (all the “cease and desist”  
> missives that shut down the Shadowfan and whoever), they kinda left  
> two people off their lists. It’s my understanding that John Olsen,  
> who scanned in all of the Shadow over at spaceports, never received a  
> missive, but one was intended for him.
> 
> For me personally, I never got a letter. I’ve gotten other letters.  
> (I’ve been wrong on the status of works exactly once, and then I did  
> back down and apologize… quickly), so I contacted the rights agent  
> for Conde Nast, giving my current address, and hoping they’d let me  
> join the club. I also mentioned what I and some friends would do in  
> U.S. District Court, Southern District of NY, should such a mailing be  
> received …
> 
> I never got a letter, so to this day I still don’t know if they were  
> actual cease and desists sent out, or the infinitely more common “ooh,  
> scaries,” but we’re acting under the impression that it was the  
> former.
> 
> The Conde Nast rights agent has been informed that I’m reprinting the  
> series. I in fact provide them with ISBNs for each new volume …
> 
> We’ll see what happens. I am incorporated. They may become more  
> interested should the new Sky Captain movie (which to me looks very  
> cool) be succesful at the box office. We can perhaps talk licensing,  
> which I’d prefer to do … but I’m quite prepared for the alternative.

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[http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=6389bbd8.0409070609.66ed223%40posting.google.com&rnum=16](http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=6389bbd8.0409070609.66ed223%40posting.google.com&rnum=16)

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