# Attention Mac users, pple Computers promote Godless Darwinism and Communism. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 22, 2002, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897 "2002-04-22T01:35:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/1 "2002-04-22T01:35:47Z")
Yep. It’s [true](http://members.truepath.com/objective/propaganda.html)! > [@](#): > > That’s right, new Macs are based on Darwinism! While they currently don’t advertise this fact to consumers, it is well known among the computer elite, who are mostly Atheists and Pagans. Furthermore, the Darwin OS is released under an “Open Source” license, which is just another name for Communism. They try to hide all of this under a facade of shiny, “lickable” buttons, but the truth has finally come out: Apple Computers promote Godless Darwinism and Communism. > [@](#): > > …Consider the name of the company and its logo: an apple with a bite taken out of it. This is clearly a reference to the Fall, when Adam and Eve were tempted with an apple by the serpent. It is now Apple Computers offering us temptation, thereby aligning themselves with the forces of darkness… > [@](#): > > … Consider co-founder and leader Steve Jobs’ constant exhortation through advertising (i.e. mind control) that its followers should “think different” We have to ask ourselves: “think different than whom or what?” The disturbing answer is that they want us to think different than our Christian upbringing, to reject all the values that we have been taught and to heed not the message of the Lord Jesus Christ! Fellow dopers…I have to confess, I use a Mac. I use a Mac not only at work, but at home. My wife uses a Mac. We drink the kool-aid, mm’kay? What kind of repentence and acts of contrition must I begin to win favor with the Lord? Will MS Windows provide the healing that I seek? (snicker) Dr. (snicker) Richard Paley: kiss my iAss. BTW, this same dude is sponsoring a campaign to get the Landover Baptist website [removed](http://members.truepath.com/objective/index.html) from the net. ---
**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/2 "2002-04-22T01:43:20Z")
Fuck, now the type of computer I use will determine whether I get into heaven or not? Salvation is getting more and more complicated every day. ---
**Author:** ![St.Urho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@St.Urho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Urho)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/3 "2002-04-22T01:46:45Z")
mmmm… lickable buttons… That has to be the funniest website I’ve ever seen. But then I use a Mac… ---
**Author:** ![Bob\_Scene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Bob\_Scene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Scene)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/4 "2002-04-22T01:50:22Z")
I went searching for “Fellowship University” on Google and could find no mention of it. Either the whole thing’s a piss-take, apparently perpetrated by the Landover people themselves, or… **EVIL MAC-USING HACKERS HAVE CRASHED THE FELLOWSHIP UNIVERSITY WEBSITE!** ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/5 "2002-04-22T02:00:10Z")
But…But…But _everyone_ knows Bill Gates is the _Antichrist_! If Macs are really a tool of the Godless Darwinian Secular Humanist Communistic Conspiracy, then what are the Godly supposed to use? Abaci? ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/6 "2002-04-22T02:06:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bob Scene \* > \*\*I went searching for “Fellowship University” on Google and could find no mention of it. > > Either the whole thing’s a piss-take, apparently perpetrated by the Landover people themselves, or… > **EVIL MAC-USING HACKERS HAVE CRASHED THE FELLOWSHIP UNIVERSITY WEBSITE!** \*\* I dunno…the more I look at this thing the more I think I have been whooshed… For example, the [Creation Science Fair](http://members.truepath.com/objective/creationsciencefair.html) is just a wee bit over the top… This site is a parody, right? Of course they do [sell](http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=objectivemin) shit… and they seem pretty [earnest](http://members.truepath.com/objective/creation.html) and serious about their creationist doctrine. Is this a “legit” site or a parody site? ---
**Author:** ![celestina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/258eb7/32.png) [@celestina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/celestina)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/7 "2002-04-22T02:13:17Z")
[celestina scratching her head] Is this article some kind of joke? I don’t understand. 😕 How can using a certain brand of computer make one deviate from one’s Christian–if that’s the religion one claims for him/herself–beliefs? 😕 😕 😕 I don’t care if you call it “Darwin,” or if there’s a peach with a bite taken out of it. It’s a machine. You plug the cord thingy in the computer and the other part of the cord thingy into an electrical outlet, push the “On” button, watch for the green light, and start typing. How can this be equated with religious beliefs of any kind? And since PC’s Windows stuff have pirated the Mac format of using icons and stuff on the desktop, rather than the DOS stuff they were using, where do they fall in _Dr._ Paley’s anti-Christian conspiracy? I tell you. I am _really_ beginning to wonder about some of these Christian types who are on a mission to “save” folks from any semblance of critical thinking. Just what the hell _is_ being taught in Sunday school or in church for that matter? ---
**Author:** ![red\_dragon60](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@red\_dragon60](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/red_dragon60)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/8 "2002-04-22T02:13:46Z")
Proof that Linux is the OS that Jesus uses. ---
**Author:** ![Hodge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Hodge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hodge)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/9 "2002-04-22T02:14:30Z")
Satire. Brilliant satire. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/10 "2002-04-22T02:21:16Z")
As I write this on my devilish iMac, I am of two minds. My first instinct is to think that we’ve all been whooshed. On the other hand, the other pages you cite do display a lot of sincerity. So, it’s hard to say. A few years ago, I attended a convention hosted by my (then) church. (I’ve since changed congregations.) It had a lot of fun crackpot theorists, “Lone Gunmen” types. Which was fine (and amusing). But some of them were TOO serious. One guy had seminar, where he pointed to just about everything (the US Dollar, countless other things) and he said that there was an underlying symbolism behind them that were _SATANIC_. He kept on repeating “This is _SATANIC_ - that is _SATANIC_” and on and on. And he was serious. So, you never know… Some people are REALLY serious about this sort of thing. I’m sure the _“SATANIC”_ guy would have eventually gotten around to explaining why Apple Computers were _SATANIC_, had I hung around long enough to listen. ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Crunch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@Chief\_Crunch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Crunch)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/11 "2002-04-22T02:26:58Z")
I saw this on another site and I’m 99% sure it’s a joke. If it isn’t, I don’t even know what to say. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/12 "2002-04-22T02:35:57Z")
I gotta say, the article on [Game Theory and Christian Apologetics](http://members.truepath.com/objective/gametheory.html) on the same site is quite interesting. ---
**Author:** ![hobgnoblin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hobgnoblin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hobgnoblin)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/13 "2002-04-22T02:38:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bob Scene \* > **Either the whole thing’s a piss-take, apparently perpetrated by the Landover people themselves, or…** The graphics and layouts look suspiciously like the work of Landover, the Masters of Whooooosh. ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/14 "2002-04-22T02:51:23Z")
I keep changing my mind…if it’s a joke…they also have their [web hosting provider](http://www.truepath.com/) (which seems to be legit) fooled… ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Maximino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@Mighty\_Maximino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Maximino)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/15 "2002-04-22T03:12:57Z")
I think they slipped it by, **beagledave**. I think it’s a joke – the Creation Science Fair stuff is a little over the top (women “intelligently designed” to be homemakers?). Also, people that are that wacky typically don’t have that slick of a webpage design! ---
**Author:** ![Kirkland1244](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kirkland1244](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kirkland1244)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/16 "2002-04-22T03:17:13Z")
I think its legit. As a Mac OS X user (and, sadly, a Windows XP user), I think this is quite a funny website. Kirk ---
**Author:** ![eunoia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eunoia/32/97_2.png) [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/17 "2002-04-22T03:18:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mighty Maximino \* > \*\*I think they slipped it by, **beagledave**. I think it’s a joke – the Creation Science Fair stuff is a little over the top (women “intelligently designed” to be homemakers?). Also, people that are that wacky typically don’t have that slick of a webpage design! \*\* Also: no typos=not really fanatics The National Association of Game Theoreticians is undoubtedly legit though… ---
**Author:** ![eunoia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eunoia/32/97_2.png) [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/18 "2002-04-22T03:19:34Z")
CHRISTIAN game theoreticians that is… ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/19 "2002-04-22T03:25:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mighty Maximino \* > \*\*I think they slipped it by, **beagledave**. I think it’s a joke – the Creation Science Fair stuff is a little over the top (women “intelligently designed” to be homemakers?). Also, people that are that wacky typically don’t have that slick of a webpage design! \*\* I dunno, sounds like the ol’ “Barefoot and Pregnant” to me. ---
**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897/20 "2002-04-22T03:36:36Z")
Hmm. I dunno. They seem to really truly hate the Landover people-- check out their “shut down Landover site” section. This site seems ridiculous but legit. Oh boy! scroll down for Habu the elephant! [http://members.truepath.com/objective/kidz.html](http://members.truepath.com/objective/kidz.html) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-mac-users-pple-computers-promote-godless-darwinism-and-communism/104897.md?page=2)