# Attention smokers: everything in your house is ruined. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 19, 2014, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471 "2014-04-19T04:43:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/201 "2014-04-24T11:37:05Z")
> [@Bo\_Pai](#): > > Learning/knowing simply isn’t my thang. And you come to a board devoted to _fighting_ ignorance rather than promoting and praising it? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/202 "2014-04-24T14:25:58Z")
> [@Bo\_Pai](#): > > New and interesting lines of thought, leading to even more new and interesting lines of thought. Thank you for sharing your definitions, though I do not share them. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/203 "2014-04-24T14:32:28Z")
Cripes what an idiot. A babbling one at that. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/204 "2014-04-24T14:44:30Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > Cripes what an idiot. A babbling one at that. He’s hoping that we will confuse rambling off in tangents as a sign of intelligence. I’ve seen stoners try that with much better comprehension. Possibly he’s posting while high? ---
**Author:** ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/205 "2014-04-24T15:01:26Z")
> [@Antigen](#): > > It depends on the specific item, but no, there’s not much from my mother’s smoke-filled house that I’d want to inherit. Jewelry, china, silver - those will survive a few decades of smoking and come out all right, but all the quilts and upholstered furniture are going straight to the curb. My suitcase reeks after I’m there for a weekend, and Febreze only does so much to get the stink out. I can’t fathom trying to un-stink an ottoman. Maybe the all-wood furniture would be ok. The all-wood furniture might be in trouble, too. The nicotine residue impregnates the varnish/urethane finishes and softens them. Any cleaner that you would use to remove the nicotine will also remove the finish. The good news is, it can make stripping the furniture a bit easier, depending on the method. ---
**Author:** ![Bo\_Pai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@Bo\_Pai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bo_Pai)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/206 "2014-04-24T15:11:22Z")
> [@Seanette](#): > > And you come to a board devoted to _fighting_ ignorance rather than promoting and praising it? 😕 So you’re on a mission to “clean up” humanity? Sounds noble doesn’t it? The exact same excuse used by tyrants and perpetrators of genocide, but that’s just a coincidence - probably doesn’t mean anything. And perhaps you’re more evolved and prefer the kinder, gentler cleanse of internment or segregation in your war on “ignorance”. Or some sort of caste system? Tattoos, perhaps? Like “This person wants what Seanette wants”, “This person doesn’t want what Seanette” wants? So, how’s that working out? Making progress? Any hope of success? There’s that pesky little freedom thing, ya know - the freedom you have to decide you know best what people should think, believe, want and how they should live? Everybody else \*\*\*also \*\*\*has that freedom. Of course, where there’s bad news there’s good news which is that you’ll never run out of things to fight about! So you’re set for life! ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/207 "2014-04-24T15:48:09Z")
> [@Bo\_Pai](#): > > So you’re on a mission to “clean up” humanity? Sounds noble doesn’t it? The exact same excuse used by tyrants and perpetrators of genocide, but that’s just a coincidence - probably doesn’t mean anything. And perhaps you’re more evolved and prefer the kinder, gentler cleanse of internment or segregation in your war on “ignorance”. Or some sort of caste system? Tattoos, perhaps? Like “This person wants what Seanette wants”, “This person doesn’t want what Seanette” wants? > > So, how’s that working out? Making progress? Any hope of success? There’s that pesky little freedom thing, ya know - the freedom you have to decide you know best what people should think, believe, want and how they should live? Everybody else \*\*\*also \*\*\*has that freedom. Of course, where there’s bad news there’s good news which is that you’ll never run out of things to fight about! So you’re set for life! You really need to read some our tattoo threads. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/208 "2014-04-24T17:16:28Z")
Hey, at least **Bo Pai** is fun, and hasn’t gotten themselves banned in a week. Count your blessings. Possibly as curses. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/209 "2014-04-24T17:21:09Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > Hey, at least **Bo Pai** is fun, and hasn’t gotten themselves banned in a week. Count your blessings. Possibly as curses. Rambling like an idiot doesn’t get you banned or I would have been shown the door a long time ago. It’s that his rambling isn’t very enlightening, nor entertaining. Still think he’s high. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/210 "2014-04-24T17:29:53Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > Rambling like an idiot doesn’t get you banned or I would have been shown the door a long time ago. > It’s that his rambling isn’t very enlightening, nor entertaining. > > Still think he’s high. Maybe you have a much higher standard of what constitutes entertainment than I do, but who’s the last poster who said that a habit commonly known to be judicially deadly could give you situational superpowers, _and meant it_? This particular variety of poster does not come along every day to the SDMB. At least, not the ones who are able to restrain themselves enough to keep from getting banned. In their own way, they give every discussion a certain insane flavor. I think they should be conserved. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/211 "2014-04-24T19:31:24Z")
> [@Bo\_Pai](#): > > So you’re on a mission to “clean up” humanity? Sounds noble doesn’t it? The exact same excuse used by tyrants and perpetrators of genocide, but that’s just a coincidence - probably doesn’t mean anything. And perhaps you’re more evolved and prefer the kinder, gentler cleanse of internment or segregation in your war on “ignorance”. Or some sort of caste system? Tattoos, perhaps? Like “This person wants what Seanette wants”, “This person doesn’t want what Seanette” wants? So Cecil’s a fascist dictator. Who knew. I don’t think he’s high. When I was in college people who were high made a lot more sense than he does. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/212 "2014-04-24T19:49:32Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Isn’t _everyone_ allergic to tobacco? The stuff is a poison, after all. > > My experience is the same: every smoker I know thinks their stench doesn’t reek. On top of that, they also believe they believe they’re not addicted to the crap. I don’t understand the venom evinced here. You don’t _have_ to associate with smokers. Just stay away from them. People who eat some types of spicy food can smell pretty gross too. But would you excoriate them in such a fashion or is it only smokers who inspire such hatred? BTW I’m 66 and haven’t smoked since my 30s. My partner still does though and, oddly enough, I love her to pieces and the only time she smells of smoke is when she’s smoking. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/213 "2014-04-24T21:04:31Z")
I live in China. Care to explain how I’m supposed to “not associate” with smokers when damn near every male in China smokes in public, regardless of the venue? Oh, and where is the “venom” in that post? ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/214 "2014-04-24T23:32:49Z")
Excuse us for a moment. > [@Bo\_Pai](#): > > Everything you “learn to know” was once a new idea and/or discovery that came from someone who dared to \*\*\*not \*\*\*“know”. Some live to say, “I know!”, while others live to say, “What was THAT?!?!”…. > > Learning/knowing simply isn’t my thang. [verifying forum …] Pai, that is complete and utter bullshit. Challenging accepted theories is not fucking “daring to **not** know”. I know more about the history of not just incomplete but completely wrong headed scientific theories than you will ever have a clue about in your miserable ignorant life, and I can assure you that the drivel you spout is not daring anything. Do you want to know what you are really talking about? Some posit that children’s immune systems develop better when they are exposed many different “germs” early on. Unless you are talking about the very old **knowledge** that people can build up tolerances to certain poisons. That is possible (to be brief) because the definition of a poison is “too much”, and metabolism is very adaptable. However, I have never in my curious, skeptical, woo-believing\*, and reasonable well-read life every read that anyone could develop a tolerance to a powerful chemical carcinogen. Please enlighten me if you **have a link to a peer-reviewed study.** Yes, scientists can be (are) narrow minded arrogant ideologues, but they are still more reliable than those who are ignorant and proud of it. Yes, scientists, current theories, and conventional wisdom all need to be challenged, but trust me, little one, you are not up to the job. - “woo” being defined as “the possibility humans don’t know everything yet” ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/215 "2014-04-25T00:40:03Z")
I sell new-in-box pocket knives on ebay. I suppose the Chinese-made cardboard box is ruined, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/216 "2014-04-25T13:44:49Z")
??? Are you sure you posted this where you intended to, **the\_diego**? ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/217 "2014-04-25T17:37:42Z")
> [@Seanette](#): > > ??? Are you sure you posted this where you intended to, **the\_diego**? Of course he did. **Monty** lives in China. He claims everybody smokes in China. He also claims that items are irrevocably damaged when exposed to smokers. Therefore, according to the logic in this thread, everything made in China is ruined forever. **the\_diego** was riffing on the thought processes shown by some of the more militant posters in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/218 "2014-04-25T18:07:43Z")
> [@armedmonkey](#): > > Of course he did. **Monty** lives in China. He claims everybody smokes in China. I never made that claim. > [@](#): > > **the\_diego** was riffing on the thought processes shown by some of the more militant posters in this thread. The irony is practically palpable. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/219 "2014-04-25T19:08:04Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I never made that claim. Close enough, asshole. You said “damn near every male”. To insist on precision there just makes it look like you’re trying to weasel out of something you did say. Not surprising having read some of your posts here: > [@Monty](#): > > My experience is the same: every smoker I know thinks their stench doesn’t reek… All the people I’ve known in person who smoke and who say they don’t smoke in their home…well, they do… Care to explain how I’m supposed to “not associate” with smokers when damn near every male in China smokes in public, regardless of the venue? But… > [@monty](#): > > That certainly wasn’t me. I never in my life said all smokers do that. I did say that all the smokers I knew in person do. I really don’t think you understand what a jackass you sound like. You make sweeping statements, and then weasel out of them by claiming it wasn’t “everybody”, it’s just “everybody you’ve met.” As if the difference is supposed to mean a damn thing. Shut the fuck up with that. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/220 "2014-04-25T19:29:39Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I agree with this rant completely - if it comes from a smokey environment, it will REEK of smoke. > > And your house itself - don’t forget that. We’re going to be looking for a new house this summer, and so many of the candidates are going to be off the list because people have been smoking in them. You can reclaim a house that’s been smoked in, but it’s almost a gut job. When we went house-hunting, we gave nicknames to each house we looked at. I’ve related a time or two on these boards about the house we simply called “Cigarette House” … :eek: This house went beyond “a smoker lived here”. More like “a genetic anomaly - a woman who smoked two packs a day for sixty years, and rather than dying horribly of cancer and other diseases like most people would, was slowly mummified from the inside out by tar and nicotine - lived here”. She was still alive - a sort of cheerful, wrinkled, smoking cherub, who greeted us at the door while lighing a new smoke from the butt of the old. I dunno what the original colour scheme of the place was - the walls were now _brown_. And slightly sticky. Just being in there caused me to wheeze … and I’m an ex-smoker myself! 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471.md?page=12)