# Attention smokers: everything in your house is ruined. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 19, 2014, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471 "2014-04-19T04:43:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/141 "2014-04-21T18:35:29Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Someone smokes for one week and the pages become tarred and sticky? After a week. Uh huh. And after this week of smoking, all things it comes near are damaged goods. Yeah, your posts aren’t total bullshit at all. Sure, I smoked once in 2003. The cigarette smell is still in my hair to this day, and in my neighbor’s hair. I kissed a smoker once and my mouth still tastes like ashes, as do the mouths of every guy I’ve kissed since. True story. You know what? Sure, you found me out. I mean, all my posts about working in the library and dealing with people’s strange and grotty shit are all made up. Honestly, I like your way better - much less disgusting, much less work. I’ll try not to get so confused in the future. On a totally unrelated note, I find the new edition of the rolleyes smiley to be wholly inadequate for my needs. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/142 "2014-04-21T18:47:45Z")
> [@Lasciel](#): > > You know what? Sure, you found me out. I mean, all my posts about working in the library and dealing with people’s strange and grotty shit are all made up. Oh, I believe people have returned books in disgusting conditions. What you are lying about is people checking out a book for one week and their chain smoking leaving the book covered in tar and so thoroughly reeking of smoke that nothing can be near it without damage. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/143 "2014-04-21T18:57:49Z")
Since all things in smokers houses are ruined, I’m seeing a great opportunity here for home protection services. Don’t want your house broken into? Start smoking! No one will want to steal your things since you’ve ruined them with that first puff. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/144 "2014-04-21T20:21:33Z")
It has come to my attention that people who defecate sometimes touch stuff around their houses or offices afterwards. Sure they washed their hands, but everything they touched touches another object in a great chain of paranoia. That book you picked up ? You can’t _know_ somebody didn’t read it on the pot. ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/145 "2014-04-21T20:23:13Z")
> [@thirdname](#): > > This is a public service announcement for smokers. > > Please be aware that everything in your house is ruined. It is all saturated with a stench that is obvious and offensive to anyone who doesn’t suck on cancer sticks every day. > > Please do not sell any of your possessions on eBay, Craigslist or anywhere else without telling potential buyers that they are ruined. They are not in mint, excellent, good, or like-new condition. They are in poor condition because you ruined them. This applies to everything in your house. You might think only your clothes and upholstery are ruined, and it is fine to sell anything else. This is incorrect. Everything is ruined including your computers, stereo, and any other electronics, and many other non-porous items. > > That is all. I’m just going to assume this has been covered over three pages already, but seriously? You’ve never heard of smokers going outside to smoke? Ever? LOL. Follies of the young. I’m sorry you bought some stinky stuff from a smoker, but dude, we don’t ALL smoke inside the house while we’re fapping to Reddit, okay? ---
**Author:** ![Bo\_Pai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@Bo\_Pai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bo_Pai)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/146 "2014-04-21T22:49:59Z")
> [@Subterraneanus](#): > > Bo Pai has just unseated FXMastermind as Forum’s Biggest Dipshit–at least until FX posts again. Holy moly! Not responding to this reply, specifically, but I see that the posse has arrived. All of the information anyone would need in order to intelligently respond to what I’ve said is “out there”. It isn’t all in the same place or even all in the same field of study, but it’s there, scattered from anthropology to zoology. All anyone would have to do is consider what I said and ask themselves which field of study might hold a piece of the puzzle. It truly is very basic information. A little historical, a little environmental, somewhat anthropological, biological/physiological/immunological etc., with a splash of geological information thrown in for some “holy moly” thoughts. I get off on “holy moly” thoughts. Most people don’t, and I’m OK with that. Everybody gets to choose for themselves, in that regard. Anyone who likes puzzles, should be able to search their most basic school memories and find enough bits and pieces to get a good “think” going. But you’ll have to do it yourself. There is all sorts of related information out there, but you’ll have to put it together yourself. There aren’t any “quotes” for you to parrot because most of the relevant scientific fields have created imaginary boundaries that bounce new ideas right back into their own limited territory, where they get distorted or just plain die, and that keep ideas from other fields at bay, rather than allowing thoughts to continue on in any sort of natural direction they might take. Bottom line, the idea itself is irrelevant. If you can’t consider an idea without someone else doing your thinking for you, then I’m talking to you. You don’t have to like it, but that’s not going to change anything. I don’t care. Call me all the names you want - it’s an excellent excuse for not thinking. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/147 "2014-04-21T23:02:26Z")
> [@Claverhouse](#): > > … > That book you picked up ? You can’t _know_ somebody didn’t read it on the pot. If my name is on the card in the little paper envelope in the front cover of the book, which I’m sure is still how it’s done, you can take it to the bank that I read it on the pot. > [@Bo\_Pai](#): > > Holy moly! Not responding to this reply, specifically, but I see that the posse has arrived. > > All of the information anyone would need in order to intelligently respond to what I’ve said is “out there”. It isn’t all in the same place or even all in the same field of study, but it’s there, scattered from anthropology to zoology. All anyone would have to do is consider what I said and ask themselves which field of study might hold a piece of the puzzle. > > It truly is very basic information. A little historical, a little environmental, somewhat anthropological, biological/physiological/immunological etc., with a splash of geological information thrown in for some “holy moly” thoughts. I get off on “holy moly” thoughts. Most people don’t, and I’m OK with that. Everybody gets to choose for themselves, in that regard. > > Anyone who likes puzzles, should be able to search their most basic school memories and find enough bits and pieces to get a good “think” going. But you’ll have to do it yourself. There is all sorts of related information out there, but you’ll have to put it together yourself. There aren’t any “quotes” for you to parrot because most of the relevant scientific fields have created imaginary boundaries that bounce new ideas right back into their own limited territory, where they get distorted or just plain die, and that keep ideas from other fields at bay, rather than allowing thoughts to continue on in any sort of natural direction they might take. > > Bottom line, the idea itself is irrelevant. If you can’t consider an idea without someone else doing your thinking for you, then I’m talking to you. You don’t have to like it, but that’s not going to change anything. I don’t care. Call me all the names you want - it’s an excellent excuse for not thinking. I’ve seen it asked of you before, but I didn’t catch your response: Do you have a newsletter that I could subscribe to, or what? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/148 "2014-04-21T23:07:27Z")
> [@Bo\_Pai](#): > > If you can’t consider an idea without someone else doing your thinking for you, then I’m talking to you. So … no, you don’t have a cite. You’re just making shit up. ---
**Author:** ![Bo\_Pai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@Bo\_Pai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bo_Pai)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/149 "2014-04-21T23:08:09Z")
> [@Bo\_Pai](#): > > Bottom line, the idea itself is irrelevant. If you can’t consider an idea without someone else doing your thinking for you, then\*\*\* I’m talking to you\*\*\*. You don’t have to like it, but that’s not going to change anything. I don’t care. Call me all the names you want - it’s an excellent excuse for not thinking. That last bit should say that I’m \*\*\*NOT \*\*\*talking to you. ---
**Author:** ![Bo\_Pai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@Bo\_Pai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bo_Pai)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/150 "2014-04-21T23:17:34Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > So … no, you don’t have a cite. You’re just making shit up. I’ve just told you what’s what so I suppose my answer is “yes” - from _ **your perspective: Regarding the consideration of the implications of a variety of seemingly unrelated ideas and discoveries stemming from various disciplines and the building of new ideas along the path that leads from one idea in one field to another idea in another and another and another - yes, from your perspective, independent thought would, indeed,** _ be considered “making shit up”. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/151 "2014-04-21T23:24:48Z")
> [@Bo\_Pai](#): > > I’ve just told you what’s what so I suppose my answer is “yes” - from \*\*\*your \*\*\*perspective: Our perspective happens to be reality. Yours is woo. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/152 "2014-04-21T23:34:20Z")
> [@Bo\_Pai](#): > > Regarding the consideration of the implications of a variety of seemingly unrelated ideas and discoveries stemming from various disciplines and the building of new ideas along the path that leads from one idea in one field to another idea in another and another and another - yes, from your perspective, independent thought would,\*\*\* indeed,\*\*\* be considered “making shit up”. I see no independent thought. Rather, I see someone wallowing in a slough of half-understood factoids and self-congratulatory falsehoods. You’re making mud pies and calling them cakes. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/153 "2014-04-21T23:35:06Z")
> [@Bo\_Pai](#): > > … I don’t care. Call me all the names you want - … Poop face. Poop that has chewed up walnuts and corn in it face. And it smells, too. Like poop. Old people diaper poop. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/154 "2014-04-21T23:36:50Z")
> [@Mrs.Cake](#): > > As a result of growing up in the '60’s, I can’t watch something like “Mad Men” without getting a strong flashback to the scent of stale cigarette smoke and Aqua-Net. Seems like everything smelled like cigarette smoke all the time, but you didn’t notice it until places started going smoke-free. Makes you wonder about HOW we all came to be smokers (not me - at 47 I’m the non-smoking unless you are stupid generation)…Why did we EVER allow it indoors. Why, since its such an obnoxious smell, wasn’t it always an outside habit? When you are around it all the time, you really don’t notice it … but there must have been a time when smoking wasn’t done in places of business (there certainly was a time when it was never done around a lady). ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/155 "2014-04-21T23:40:51Z")
> [@Bo\_Pai](#): > > Holy moly! Not responding to this reply, specifically, but I see that the posse has arrived. > > All of the information anyone would need in order to intelligently respond to what I’ve said is “out there”. It isn’t all in the same place or even all in the same field of study, but it’s there, scattered from anthropology to zoology. All anyone would have to do is consider what I said and ask themselves which field of study might hold a piece of the puzzle. > > It truly is very basic information. A little historical, a little environmental, somewhat anthropological, biological/physiological/immunological etc., with a splash of geological information thrown in for some “holy moly” thoughts. I get off on “holy moly” thoughts. Most people don’t, and I’m OK with that. Everybody gets to choose for themselves, in that regard. > > Anyone who likes puzzles, should be able to search their most basic school memories and find enough bits and pieces to get a good “think” going. But you’ll have to do it yourself. There is all sorts of related information out there, but you’ll have to put it together yourself. There aren’t any “quotes” for you to parrot because most of the relevant scientific fields have created imaginary boundaries that bounce new ideas right back into their own limited territory, where they get distorted or just plain die, and that keep ideas from other fields at bay, rather than allowing thoughts to continue on in any sort of natural direction they might take. > > Bottom line, the idea itself is irrelevant. If you can’t consider an idea without someone else doing your thinking for you, then I’m talking to you. You don’t have to like it, but that’s not going to change anything. I don’t care. Call me all the names you want - it’s an excellent excuse for not thinking. But the idea that smoking might strengthen your immune system isn’t a “holy moly” thought. It’s rooted in the old “adversity makes you stronger” saw. That saying is sometimes true and sometimes false, but it’s hardly obscure. It’s a thought that’s occurred to damn near everybody at one time or another, scientists included, and an idea that’s been tested with respect to smoking (and other drugs) a number of times. Turns out it’s not true. You’re not a visionary combining human ideas in never-before-seen ways. It’s disappointing, I know, but stamping your feet and shaking your tiny fist at us won’t change that. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/156 "2014-04-21T23:51:55Z")
> [@Bo\_Pai](#): > > It truly is very basic information. A little historical, a little environmental, somewhat anthropological, biological/physiological/immunological etc., with a splash of geological information thrown in for some “holy moly” thoughts. _I’m a little bit country And I’m a little bit rock 'n roll I’m a little bit of Memphis and Nashville With a little bit of Motown in my soul I don’t know if it’s good or bad_ Take it from me - it sucks. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/157 "2014-04-22T00:14:32Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > Makes you wonder about HOW we all came to be smokers (not me - at 47 I’m the non-smoking unless you are stupid generation)…Why did we EVER allow it indoors. Why, since its such an obnoxious smell, wasn’t it always an outside habit? When you are around it all the time, you really don’t notice it … but there must have been a time when smoking wasn’t done in places of business (there certainly was a time when it was never done around a lady). Well, when tobacco made its climb into being the ubiquitous drug it was, at night we were still shitting in chamberpots and saving it to be thrown out in the morning. The stink of tobacco smoke was probably seen as an improvement over the available odors. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/158 "2014-04-22T01:01:19Z")
> [@Bo\_Pai](#): > > That last bit should say that I’m \*\*\*NOT \*\*\*talking to you. So . . . you’re babbling to yourself? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/159 "2014-04-22T03:42:48Z")
This does not appear to be a manly thread. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2014, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471/160 "2014-04-22T05:32:34Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > But the idea that smoking might strengthen your immune system isn’t a “holy moly” thought. It’s rooted in the old “adversity makes you stronger” saw. That saying is sometimes true and sometimes false, but it’s hardly obscure. It’s a thought that’s occurred to damn near everybody at one time or another, scientists included, and an idea that’s been tested with respect to smoking (and other drugs) a number of times. Turns out it’s not true. > > You’re not a visionary combining human ideas in never-before-seen ways. It’s disappointing, I know, but stamping your feet and shaking your tiny fist at us won’t change that. I think he’s actually ripping off a plot point from the movie [“Millenium.”](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097883/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_38) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-smokers-everything-in-your-house-is-ruined/686471.md?page=9)