# Attention white people: ITS BLACK HISTORY MONTH. Think. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 3, 2016, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036 "2016-02-03T06:55:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/361 "2016-02-08T01:17:03Z")
> [@andros](#): > > I’ve seen weaker insults. > > No, wait, I haven’t. You just wrote one. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/362 "2016-02-08T02:00:22Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > It’s almost always the people who’ve never _been_ raped who say that false accusations are as bad as, if not worse than, actually being raped. No, it’s not, and anyone who says that is clearly an idiot. Nobody is saying a false accusation of rape is as bad as being raped. I will not that a false accusation of rape can ruin someone’s life though, and put them in prison for life. I don’t know about you, but I think I’d choose being raped over that. But again, the point is that a false accusation of racism does damage to the cause of stopping real racism. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/363 "2016-02-08T02:03:32Z")
Wait a minute. Is it Black History Month or False Accusation of Rape Month? ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/364 "2016-02-08T02:08:06Z")
Nah, False Accusation of Rape Month is October, to correspond with fraternity rush season. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/365 "2016-02-08T02:57:17Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Wait a minute. Is it Black History Month or False Accusation of Rape Month? I thought every month was Rape Month on the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/366 "2016-02-08T03:03:26Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You just wrote one. Sick burn, bruh. . ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/367 "2016-02-08T03:27:29Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Sick burn, bruh. > . Shouldn’t you be out with your fedora and pitchfork protesting Mountain Dew? They had a commercial with a black person and a puppy-monkey-baby in it! Durning black history month no less! ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/368 "2016-02-08T04:47:06Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Every month is white history month, dear. Now run along and play. Including this one! 😃 :dubious: Seriously, some people need to get over their assumption that the world revolves around white-on-black racism. ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/369 "2016-02-08T07:13:31Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You just wrote one. I wasn’t insulted, just gay people. ---
**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/370 "2016-02-08T08:54:29Z")
> [@andros](#): > > It’s _lulz_, you skør Danish pikfjæs. You did it for the _lulz_. > . meh. Danish hasn’t regressed to the baby language stage like English. You actually have to use the correct pronouns and conjugate words and shit, so: “Dit skøre danske pikfjæs.” Also I did it for the lolz. > [@asterion](#): > > I thought every month was Rape Month on the SDMB. More women need to be raped to be put in their place. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/371 "2016-02-08T09:20:14Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > “False accusation of rape” can mean a number of different things with a number of different levels of severity, malice, harm, etc. I’m reading it as “someone accuses someone else of having sex with them without their meaningful consent” - all the issues of prosecution etc are not what I’m addressing. > [@](#): > > “Rape” can mean a number of different things with a number of different levels of severity, malice, harm, etc. I’m using it in the “having sex with a person without their meaningful consent”. > [@](#): > > Making a blanket statement either way seems a bit silly to me. I’m happy making the statement that being made to have sex without consent is always worse than being accused of making someone have sex without their consent. > [@](#): > > And in addition to it being a meaningless statement, it’s one which perpetuates the false things-that-are-good-for-men vs things-that-are-good-for-women dichotomy. Why is it a competition? Why are we even making that comparison at all? :rolleyes:I am happy to go on record as saying a man being raped is also worse than a woman falsely being accused of rape. > [@](#): > > Rape is a horrible crime that we as a society are still struggling with, both from a law enforcement perspective and from a societal “rape culture” perspective. > > A false accusation of rape can horribly destroy an innocent man’s life. > > Why isn’t it OK for both of those statements to be independently true? They _are_ both completely true. But they are _not_ independent. And anyway, the issue isn’t whether they’re true, it’s whether they, and their fuller context, warrant a degree of punishment for false accusation over and above the existing punishments for perjury. I say nope. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/372 "2016-02-08T09:24:45Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Nobody is saying a false accusation of rape is as bad as being raped. The people on this Board saying[a false accusation deserves the same punishment as rape](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=783322) are very much saying that. > [@](#): > > I will not that a false accusation of rape can ruin someone’s life though, and put them in prison for life. I don’t know about you, but I think I’d choose being raped over that. Been raped, have you? :dubious: > [@](#): > > But again, the point is that a false accusation of racism does damage to the cause of stopping real racism. Only in the eyes of those opposed to stopping racism in the first place, as far as I’m concerned. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/373 "2016-02-08T09:25:52Z")
> [@Rune](#): > > More women need to be raped to be put in their place. Reported. You sick, stupid fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/374 "2016-02-08T09:47:17Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Including this one! 😃 :dubious: > > Seriously, some people need to get over their assumption that the world revolves around white-on-black racism. In this society it revolves around white identity, culture, history, preferences, etc., being treated as the default standard and white people largely being oblivious of how that tilts the playing field in their favor while pretending to be color blind. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/375 "2016-02-08T12:29:25Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > The people on this Board saying[a false accusation deserves the same punishment as rape](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=783322) are very much saying that. Nobody in this thread. > [@](#): > > Been raped, have you? :dubious: Spent a few decades in prison, have you? Tell me what your choice would be. Be honest. Would you pick being raped once or spending 20 years in prison and being labeled for life as a sex offender for a crime you didn’t commit. > [@](#): > > Only in the eyes of those opposed to stopping racism in the first place, as far as I’m concerned. Utter, complete bullshit. And your statement is a good example of how that phenomenon works. Anyone who makes false allegations - or excuses them - loses credibility and repels potential allies. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/376 "2016-02-08T12:30:32Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Reported. You sick, stupid fuck. I read the comment as satire. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/377 "2016-02-08T12:56:55Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Spent a few decades in prison, have you? > > Tell me what your choice would be. Be honest. Would you pick being raped once or spending 20 years in prison and being labeled for life as a sex offender for a crime you didn’t commit. I won’t speak for **MrDibble** , but considering how openly he’s talked about his experiences, you’re setting yourself up for a boo-boo here. He’s experienced one of the two; you’ve experienced neither (along with me). Also, a false accusation doesn’t mean conviction – statistically, most accusations of rape, whether true or false, don’t lead to convictions. It seems like an incredibly easy choice to me – I’d rather be falsely accused, especially since I’d be very unlikely to be convicted, then raped. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/378 "2016-02-08T13:42:26Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > I read the comment as satire. There is arguably a fine line between satire and trolling. If you stand on it and squint, you can just make out **Rune** far off in the distance, thumbing his nose at the moderators. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/379 "2016-02-08T14:03:56Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Nobody in this thread. Be more specific, next time. And there are some people posting in both threads. > [@](#): > > Spent a few decades in prison, have you? “A few decades”, please :rolleyes: _If_ someone gets prison time, the average time in jail for a rape conviction in the US is [less than six years](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_regarding_rape#Punishment_of_assailants). > [@](#): > > Tell me what your choice would be. Be honest. Would you pick being raped once or spending 20 years in prison and being labeled for life as a sex offender for a crime you didn’t commit. Mmmm, tough one…oh, wait, no, I’d rather not be raped, thanks. Or rather, not raped _again_, lest you think I’m choosing between _two_ unknowns here. > [@](#): > > Utter, complete bullshit. And your statement is a good example of how that phenomenon works. Anyone who makes false allegations - or excuses them - loses credibility and repels potential allies. Oh, _do_ tell me more about how antiracists feel, _Bwana_… > [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > I read the comment as satire. Not familiar with our resident Nordic fuckboy, are you? ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036/380 "2016-02-08T14:14:21Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I won’t speak for **MrDibble** , but considering how openly he’s talked about his experiences, you’re setting yourself up for a boo-boo here. He’s experienced one of the two; you’ve experienced neither (along with me). I’m not setting myself up for anything. He’s welcome to share his opinion based on his personal experience. > [@](#): > > Also, a false accusation doesn’t mean conviction – statistically, most accusations of rape, whether true or false, don’t lead to convictions. It seems like an incredibly easy choice to me – I’d rather be falsely accused, especially since I’d be very unlikely to be convicted, then raped. Obviously I was referring to a worst-case scenario. Yes, if I had the choice in advance and knew I’d be exonerated, I would probably choose the false accusation too. But here’s the other issue - false accusations don’t just hurt the accused, they hurt actual victims. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attention-white-people-its-black-history-month-think/745036.md?page=20)