# Attn: Cervaise - a dissenting opinion does not equal "ignorant"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 29, 2002, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373 "2002-10-29T07:12:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/1 "2002-10-29T07:12:04Z")

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**Cervaise** -

Since you have taken upon yourself to address me exactly twice, but each time you can do nothing but insult me personally, I’ve given you your own platform to tell the world why you think your petty insults are warranted.

In [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141225) and [in this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=140380), **Cervaise** poked her nose in - not to address any points made by _either_ side mind you - but to insult me personally and without backing up any of her accusations.

In both of these threads my basic sentiment was that the OP **overreacted**. If you disagree, **Cervaise** , then by all means tell me so and then _tell me why_, but your sophomoric insults serve no purpose.

> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Cervaise \*  
> **All the airport landing lights on the planet wouldn’t be bright enough to penetrate the darkness of your ignorance.**
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> > [@](#):
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> > _Originally posted by Eleusis_  
> > I’m a prick and an asshole [for thinking the OP overreacted?]
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> > [the bracketed words above conveniently left out in her quote of me]
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> \*\*Good that we got _that_ cleared up. \*\*

Hmmm what exactly have I said that makes you think I’m so _ignorant_? A quote, please. I remind you that a differing opinion, or even an unpopular one the SDMB, does not in the slightest imply lack of knowledge or education.

And this gem:

> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Cervaise \*  
> **The Inevitable Sequel**  
> Once upon a time, **Eleusis** joined a message board. However, he never had anything valuable to contribute from Day One, so when he finally slunk away to find a forum where his slopeheaded burbling would be better received, no one noticed at all. The end.

Nothing valuable to contribute. huh. Without focusing on my fair share of correct assertions in GQ, which brought me to this board in the first place, I have never offered a dissenting opinion for it’s own sake. That said, I contend that the simple fact that one exists is a valuable contribution. Is it better to have a group of people congratulating each other that they are all in agreement? I’m not the type of guy to merely fill space by jumping into a thread to say “me too!”, so I choose my battles carefully. I have opinions that I know people will disagree with, but they are my own true opinions.

You, on the other hand, seem to be following that “me too” mentality. As if, “Here is a newbie who has several people vocally disagreeing with him - what a great chance to show my solidarity and insult him personally without having to back it up.”

Here’s your chance. Back it up.

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/2 "2002-10-29T07:30:35Z")

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**Cervaise** had a gender reassignment? :eek:

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/3 "2002-10-29T08:17:52Z")

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You didn’t get the memo?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/4 "2002-10-29T08:23:29Z")

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I’ve gotta hand it to **Cervaise**. He’s one helluva perceptive fellow. Eloquent, too.

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**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/5 "2002-10-29T08:23:53Z")

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I blame the incredibly persuasive telemarketer.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/6 "2002-10-29T12:02:54Z")

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Feh. He still hasn’t reviewed _Almost Famous_.

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/7 "2002-10-29T13:45:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _Eleusis_  
> I choose my battles carefully.

That’s tragic.

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/8 "2002-10-29T14:04:48Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by reprise \*  
> \*\ ***Cervaise** had a gender reassignment? :eek: \*\*

That’s going to leave a mark!

😉

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**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/9 "2002-10-29T14:22:04Z")

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A Persecuted Dissenting Newbie, eh? Interesting, though unoriginal. You got the gender mix-up, which is good, but next time, try screwing up the coding here and there. Gives you a genuine newbie flair.

Personally, I’m hoping **Cervaise** wears his Batman costume this year. The Fred Flintstone just wasn’t him.

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**Author:** ![Linear\_Crack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Linear\_Crack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linear_Crack)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/10 "2002-10-29T14:50:54Z")

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Eleusis,

**skin** : 1 a : the external limiting tissue layer of an animal body especially when forming a tough but flexible cover relatively impermeable from without while intact b : any of various outer or surface layers (as a rind, husk, or pellicle)

**thick** : 1 a : having or being of relatively great depth or extent from one surface to its opposite \<a thick plank\> b : heavily built.

**grow** : 1 a : to spring up and develop to maturity b : to be able to grow in some place or situation \<trees that grow in the tropics\> c : to assume some relation through or as if through a process of natural growth.

🆒

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/11 "2002-10-29T15:46:55Z")

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Color me confused. The OP acts like a twit, _links_ to instances of said twitish behavior, and then proceeds to act indignant. Is there a point to this, or is it time to offer pie?

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/12 "2002-10-29T15:53:44Z")

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Will there be punch _and_ pie?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/13 "2002-10-29T16:56:41Z")

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Yay! My first Pit Thread! Can you believe it took three and a half whole years?

Thank you, Blue Fairy, for making me a Real Boy. 😃

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**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/14 "2002-10-29T17:38:09Z")

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Just want to say that I thought **Cervaise** was a girl too, way back when. Sorry, but your name makes me think of “cervyx”.🙂

Now about that pie…

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/15 "2002-10-29T17:41:42Z")

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I’m just here for the pie.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/16 "2002-10-29T18:01:02Z")

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Personally, I’m more of a flan girl myself…

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**Author:** ![peepthis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9d8465/32.png) [@peepthis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peepthis)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/17 "2002-10-29T18:05:09Z")

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All you unclever folks with the pie jokes, you might want to check out the Pit Rules on the sticky Lynn put up, for threads just like this. To wit:

> [@](#):
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> 1. I don’t want anyone posting that they’re simply in the thread to watch the fireworks. This means no posts like “:: pulls up a lawn chair ::”

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/18 "2002-10-29T18:28:03Z")

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Thank you Hall Monitor Peep.

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**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/19 "2002-10-29T18:38:51Z")

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Geez, **peep** , what kind of pies are you used to that remind you of lawn chairs? I’ve heard English food was bad, but damn…

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2002, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-cervaise-a-dissenting-opinion-does-not-equal-ignorant/134373/20 "2002-10-29T18:58:19Z")

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Cervaise wrote:

> [@](#):
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> Thank you, Blue Fairy, for making me a Real Boy.

Gah, what an insufferable movie. Why couldn’t they have destroyed him with the rest of the robots?

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