# Attn circumcised: your mother is likely a sex offender

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 15, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278 "2012-07-15T04:51:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/121 "2012-07-17T05:57:44Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> 😕 Is inchoate _pathos_ really so unfamiliar?

Yes.

But I, for one, am willing to do my part to keep it that way.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/122 "2012-07-17T06:03:20Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> No, _you_ think I’m batshit. I hope you’re having fun.

Yes, actually I AM having fun. Loads of it, thank you.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/123 "2012-07-17T06:09:30Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> No, but it does make you sound like a pretentous douche canoe.

That is only your prejudice. I know what I am talking about when I talk about inchoate _pathos_.

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**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/124 "2012-07-17T07:23:35Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> I know what I am talking about when I talk about inchoate _pathos_.

a) is there a reason why you keep italicizing pathos?

b) assuming for a moment that you have a point, why do you think cicumsicion is a sex crime as opposed to, say, medical malpractice or assault or non-sexual child abuse? Are you of the belief that anything to do with a penis must necessarily have something to do with sex?

c) have you ever thought that maybe you have too much time on your hands?

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/125 "2012-07-17T08:01:02Z")

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> [@Meyer6](#):
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> c) have you ever thought that maybe you have too much time on your hands?

_mutters_ …too much _something_ on his hands…\*

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/126 "2012-07-17T08:05:21Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> 😕 Is inchoate _pathos_ really so unfamiliar?

I googled the phrase- FOUR FUCKING ENTRIES!!!

Guin is too kind.

Btw, “pretentious douche canoe” has 429. Therefore, Guin wins!

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/127 "2012-07-17T08:14:18Z")

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This thread has rightly become a delicious trainwreck, but it is as good a place as any to put some info on how other nations deal with the issue.

Germany, for instance.

Jewish boys are traditionally circumcized by someone who has had some training and some expertise. IIRC, Muslim circumcisions are done by the father, who has little or no media training. In modern countries, both circumcison are also often doen my doctors, however reluctantly.

After some stories of Muslim cicrumcisions gone bad, last month a German judge declared circumsion of baby boys to be child abuse and forbade it.

Naturally, that got both Jewish and Muslim groups together in outrage. They were probably as surprised as anyone to be on the same side on this one.

In most recent news (last Friday, 13 july 2012), the German Prime Minister, Angela Merkel, has overthrown the judges decision and religious circumcision is still legal.

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**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/128 "2012-07-17T08:34:09Z")

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> [@Meyer6](#):
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> have you ever thought that maybe you have too much time on your hands?

Its not like he has anything else to play with.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/129 "2012-07-17T10:19:11Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> I googled the phrase- FOUR FUCKING ENTRIES!!!

And one of them is this thread. Damn, **Try2B** almost made a [Googlewhack](http://www.googlewhack.com/).

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/130 "2012-07-17T10:32:12Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> The OP should move to [Germany](http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765589058/Ruling-against-circumcision-a-threat-to-freedom.html).

> **[Religious Communities Debate Court's Circumcision Ruling](https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/religious-communities-debate-court-s-circumcision-ruling-a-841276.html)**
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> Leaders of Germany's Jewish and Muslim communities have criticized a court ruling they fear could make circumcision a punishable offense in the country. Only 10 percent of German boys are circumcised, but the issue of whether parents should be able...

> **[International Criticism of German Court's Circumcision Ruling Mounts](https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/international-criticism-of-german-court-s-circumcision-ruling-mounts-a-843453.html)**
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> Israeli politicians and European Jewish leaders on Monday condemned a recent German court decision equating circumcision with causing bodily harm. Germany's top diplomat to Israel said the ruling does not apply at the national level, and officials at...

> **[European Jewish Leaders Lambast German Circumcision Ruling](https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/european-jewish-leaders-lambast-german-circumcision-ruling-a-844128.html)**
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> An influential group of European rabbis on Thursday used unusually strong language to attack a German court ruling against the circumcision of boys. If the ruling is allowed to stand, the group's president warned, "then I don't see a future for Jews...

Naturally there’s a whole lot of over the top rhetoric on display.

Back to the OP on the definition of incest.

INCEST! - The fun game the whole family can play! Just say it with an enthusiastic TV announcer’s voice.

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Switching to serious mode. Back in the 1980’s I had daughters, not sons. Not sure if I would have had my son circumcised. Even without a medical reason (debatable at that time), I might have said yes since I wouldn’t want him feeling weird in his high school locker room as the only uncut kid there.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/131 "2012-07-17T11:10:57Z")

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> I was also trying to figure out in the background how to talk about it with my gf as there are some sexual side-effects, but her denial is to the point that she can hardly acknowledge that the circ is even the case.

At this point, does it even matter what the cause of these sexual side-effects are? You can hardly seek justice by prosecuting your mother for rape, and there’s no way of getting your foreskin back.

So here’s an idea. Why not try to forgive your mother for her atrocity against your manhood and ameliorate the side-effects the best you can. IOW, give K-Y a whirl.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/132 "2012-07-17T11:21:55Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> This thread has rightly become a delicious trainwreck, but it is as good a place as any to put some info on how other nations deal with the issue.

I believe that there are 192 nations.

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/133 "2012-07-17T11:23:39Z")

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> [@Meyer6](#):
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> a) is there a reason why you keep italicizing pathos?

Because it’s in chocolate. Duh.

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**Author:** ![SticksAndString](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@SticksAndString](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SticksAndString)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/134 "2012-07-17T12:33:24Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Yes.
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> But I, for one, am willing to do my part to keep it that way.

While the word _pathos_ was not unfamiliar to me, the word _inchoate_ was so I Googled it.  
The first thing that came up was a link to this thread.😃

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/135 "2012-07-17T13:01:10Z")

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> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> And one of them is this thread. Damn, **Try2B** almost made a [Googlewhack](http://www.googlewhack.com/).

_ **Recursive:** _ see “Recursive”.

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**Author:** ![kferr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kferr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kferr)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/136 "2012-07-17T13:40:43Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> …Muslim circumcisions are done by the father, who has little or no **media** training.

They make really bad youtube videos of their son’s circumcisions? 🙂

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**Author:** ![OtisCampbellWasRight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d78d45/32.png) [@OtisCampbellWasRight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtisCampbellWasRight)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/137 "2012-07-17T19:32:36Z")

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Problem solver that I am, I believe I have a solution for Try2B’s perceived trauma:

Go to a place where they sell live lobsters. Ask them for one of the rubber bands they put across the claws to keep the lobsters from injuring one another. When you get home (DO NOT do this in the store), install the rubber band on your schlong and presto! Instant foreskin! (Band name?)

You’re welcome.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/138 "2012-07-17T22:38:00Z")

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And best of all, now there’s a perfectly good explanation for one’s schlong smelling a little like lobster.

(All these years, I’ve been using electricians’ tape…)

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**Author:** ![OtisCampbellWasRight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d78d45/32.png) [@OtisCampbellWasRight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtisCampbellWasRight)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/139 "2012-07-17T22:39:51Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> And best of all, now there’s a perfectly good explanation for one’s schlong smelling a little like lobster.
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> (All these years, I’ve been using electricians’ tape…)

Oh, ouch!☹

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-circumcised-your-mother-is-likely-a-sex-offender/628278/140 "2012-07-17T23:31:27Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> No, _you_ think I’m batshit. I hope you’re having fun.

on the other hand, I think you’re either obsessed to the point of mental illness, or you lie somewhere along the autism spectrum. and this:

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> I was also trying to figure out in the background how to talk about it with my gf as there are some sexual side-effects, but her denial is to the point that she can hardly acknowledge that the circ is even the case.

if you’re having trouble “performing,” you might want to try to figure out the real root cause instead of blaming something that doesn’t seem to be a problem for millions of other guys.

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