# Attn: Fat People. Quit Your Fucking Whining!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 8, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725 "2011-04-08T22:10:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/101 "2011-04-11T20:04:13Z")
I have no strong thoughts about the long standing macronutrient balance debate but 40% is high even by the high protei diet standards. See, for example, [this article](http://www.ajcn.org/content/82/1/41.short), that found that a “high protein diet” helped decrease appetite - “high protein” was 30%, not 40%. [In this one](http://www.ajcn.org/content/78/1/31.short) it was 27%. And [this review](http://www.ajcn.org/content/87/5/1558S.full) also uses the 30% number as “high protein”. As for concerns over renal function, high protein in that typical definition, seems not to be a concern for those with healthy kidneys. [This study](http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1181460) called high protein 25% and found no signs of adverse effects. Still, as **artemis** notes, [“higher protein” diets](http://www.annals.org/content/138/6/460.full.pdf+html) may exacerbate mild, and potentially up until then undiagnosed, renal insufficiency, so some caution seems appropriate. There are also [those](http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ilsi/nure/2002/00000060/00000007/art00001) who express concern that going beyond 2-3 times that advised by the RDA may cause urinary calcium loss and thus increase future risk of osteoporosis and kidney stones. RDA is 0.8 g of protein per day. FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/102 "2011-04-11T20:29:12Z")
Oh. That’s 0.8g _per kg of body weight_ (which is 2.2 pounds) per day. 1 g of protein has about 4 Calories. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/103 "2011-04-11T20:35:32Z")
Good luck with your high protein diets - my husband is tracking everything he eats on LoseIt! on his iTouch (and he is extremely thorough with recording), and he can’t get UP to 20% protein, even when he’s eating all the protein he can get his hands on. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2011, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/104 "2011-04-12T10:10:52Z")
Huh. At the time I was warned about eating too much protein, my kidney functions were smack dab in the middle of normal. ---
**Author:** ![Zjestika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8edcca/32.png) [@Zjestika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zjestika)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/105 "2011-04-13T05:12:30Z")
> [@susan\_foster](#): > > I’m a former fat person. I lost my weight using Weight Watchers, and hit my goal about 9 years ago (9 years on 4/24 to be exact). I am about 4 pounds over goal, but I still consider myself a success at maintenance, considering I lost 50 pounds. > > I work hard to stay at maintenance. Most people who know me never knew me as fat. But inside, I know what I could be, oh so easily. [http://www.runnersworld.com/article/1,7120,s6-243-297-519-13846-0,00.html](http://www.runnersworld.com/article/1,7120,s6-243-297-519-13846-0,00.html) > > It never lets go. Thank you for posting a link to that essay. I relate to it so much. It’s amazing how I sometimes feel like a fat girl no matter what I look like and am sort of obsessed with staying not fat on the outside. And I totally run to eat. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/106 "2011-04-13T05:24:48Z")
> [@Zjestika](#): > > Thank you for posting a link to that essay. I relate to it so much. It’s amazing how I sometimes feel like a fat girl no matter what I look like and am sort of obsessed with staying not fat on the outside. And I totally run to eat. The thing that struck me about that essay was in the beginning when he talked about how when young he felt like a freak while others remember him as being a tad chubby. I’d give a lot to be as “fat” as I was when I was young… ---
**Author:** ![narutochatsrcool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/43a26b/32.png) [@narutochatsrcool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/narutochatsrcool)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/107 "2011-07-01T01:28:04Z")
what a jackass u are! I’m 12 and im 210 POUNDS!! DOES THAT SEEM SOOOO EASY TO LOSE TO YOU!!! THAT WILL BE REALLY HARD TO LOSE!!! Before anyone can lose ANYTHING, they have to have MOTIVATION!!! It’s true that i wanna lose but i have NO MOTIVATION to do so!!! Wanting to be “beautiful” should be motivation enough right? WELL IT’S NOT!!! I’M FAT AND I’M NOT GONNA DENY IT!!! I WANT GUYS TO LOOK AT ME LIKE THEY DO AT OTHER GIRLS!! I WANNA FEEL WHAT OTHER GIRLS FEEL WHEN THEY’RE WITH THEIR SPECIAL GUY!!! BUT IT REALLY ISN’T THAT EASY!! When people are really overweight especially at a young age its HARDER to lose!!! AND FOR MEN IT’S EASIER TO LOSE WEIGHT THAN WOMAN, AND THAT’S A FACT!!! SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH SOME MENTAL ILLNESS LIKE BULIMIA OR DEPRESSION(like me!) OR SOME KIND OF EATING DISORDER CAUSING THEM TO EAT MORE SO ITS NOT “THAT EASY”!!! I GET HUNGRY AND I DONT WANNA GET OFF MY FATASS AND WHEN I DO NOBODY CAN TAKE ME ANYWHERE TO WORK OUT AND I CANT GO ANYWHERE SO I GET NO EXERCISE AND ALL THE CALORIES!!! OTHER PEOPLE HAVE OTHER ISSUES LIKE THEIR FAMILY DYING OR OTHER THINGS AND THEY DON’T HAVE THE WILL TO EAT!!! KNOW SOMEONE’S STORY BEFORE U FUCKING JUDGE FAT PEOPLE!! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/108 "2011-07-01T01:37:30Z")
Welcome to the SDMB, **narutochatsrcool**. Hope you enjoy your stay. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/109 "2011-07-01T01:44:05Z")
> [@narutochatsrcool](#): > > what a jackass u are! I’m 12 and im 210 POUNDS!! DOES THAT SEEM SOOOO EASY TO LOSE TO YOU!!! THAT WILL BE REALLY HARD TO LOSE!!! Before anyone can lose ANYTHING, they have to have MOTIVATION!!! It’s true that i wanna lose but i have NO MOTIVATION to do so!!! Wanting to be “beautiful” should be motivation enough right? WELL IT’S NOT!!! I’M FAT AND I’M NOT GONNA DENY IT!!! I WANT GUYS TO LOOK AT ME LIKE THEY DO AT OTHER GIRLS!! I WANNA FEEL WHAT OTHER GIRLS FEEL WHEN THEY’RE WITH THEIR SPECIAL GUY!!! BUT IT REALLY ISN’T THAT EASY!! When people are really overweight especially at a young age its HARDER to lose!!! AND FOR MEN IT’S EASIER TO LOSE WEIGHT THAN WOMAN, AND THAT’S A FACT!!! SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH SOME MENTAL ILLNESS LIKE BULIMIA OR DEPRESSION(like me!) OR SOME KIND OF EATING DISORDER CAUSING THEM TO EAT MORE SO ITS NOT “THAT EASY”!!! I GET HUNGRY AND I DONT WANNA GET OFF MY FATASS AND WHEN I DO NOBODY CAN TAKE ME ANYWHERE TO WORK OUT AND I CANT GO ANYWHERE SO I GET NO EXERCISE AND ALL THE CALORIES!!! OTHER PEOPLE HAVE OTHER ISSUES LIKE THEIR FAMILY DYING OR OTHER THINGS AND THEY DON’T HAVE THE WILL TO EAT!!! KNOW SOMEONE’S STORY BEFORE U FUCKING JUDGE FAT PEOPLE!! Far too obvious. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/110 "2011-07-01T01:48:14Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Welcome to the SDMB, **narutochatsrcool**. Hope you enjoy your stay. 🙂 I didn’t think 12 year olds were allowed? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/111 "2011-07-01T02:03:50Z")
As a rule, no. But clearly we have a prodigy. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/112 "2011-07-01T02:20:33Z")
Perhaps the OP could post 3 or 4 days worth of his menus to demonstrate what he is eating that meets the 40/40/20 breakdown of carbs/protein/fat. **Cort**? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/113 "2011-07-01T02:46:21Z")
I’m really, really trying to not be a douche here. But, OP, you are not as well informed as you think you are. Sure, you know how you lost weight, but you admit you weren’t that overweight. You weren’t addicted to food or to the serotonin rush of sugar. You had just put on a little as you got older. It’s not the same thing. The easy part of losing weight is eating less and moving more. The hard part is not giving into the cravings, the hunger, etc. Your body does not want to lose weight. We have evolved to want to store up more and more food, not to get rid of it. Just because you found something easy doesn’t mean it was easy for everyone else. And these women are likely no more wrong for whining than you are for bringing this up here rather than dealing with the problem head on. Catharsis when you are doing something difficult does have value. That said, you come off as a decent person trying to help. That’s why I’m trying my best to be nice, even in the Pit where I’m supposed to be an asshole. But please realize it’s not quite the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/114 "2011-07-01T03:08:18Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > even in the Pit where I’m supposed to be an asshole. I really fucking hate this presumption and attitude. Nothing personal, you just happened to articulate something way too many people believe and it pretty much makes me sick, because it’s stupid and mean and completely unnecessary. Bah. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/115 "2011-07-01T03:15:22Z")
> [@The\_Surb](#): > > I am thinking of starting The Crystal Meth diet. > **[Dailymotion](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xczm9g)** ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/116 "2011-07-01T03:20:27Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Welcome to the SDMB, **narutochatsrcool**. Hope you enjoy your stay. 🙂 As short as it may be. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/117 "2011-07-01T03:23:44Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > I really fucking hate this presumption and attitude. Nothing personal, you just happened to articulate something way too many people believe and it pretty much makes me sick, because it’s stupid and mean and completely unnecessary. Bah. People are not mean to you because it’s the Pit, people are mean to you because it’s you. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725/118 "2011-07-01T03:38:28Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > I didn’t think 12 year olds were allowed? 😕 \ Minimum age for joining the SDMB is 13. So I’m gonna suspend this poster for a year, and close the thread. If someone wants to rant about fat or fat people some more, start a new thread.\ Lynn [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-fat-people-quit-your-fucking-whining/577725.md?page=5)