# Attn losers: Go to Asia and get laid!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 17, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504 "2009-09-17T21:31:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/81 "2009-09-18T16:46:17Z")

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> [@Mississippienne](#):
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> [“I am only object of lust for poor nerds who cannot get American pussy.”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11550060&postcount=14)
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> As has been [discussed in another thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=531525), there have been several recent threads in which a Doper rants about being (un)(under)employed, broke, and living in their parent’s basement, and in every thread several people will recommend they ‘go teach English in Asia’, as though this is the panacea for all that ails you. Other Dopers express their frustration with the unqualified losers who come to Asia to teach, do a terrible job, screw around with the local women, and make more serious English teachers look bad.
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> **Argent Towers** defends his advice by saying, hey, at least a basement-dweller can get laid in Asia! As we all know, Chinese girls are just as cheap, disposable, and mass-produced as their nation’s inexpensive toys. Who cares if they’re used and discarded by foreign men looking to get their rocks off with an exotic oriental flower? They’ll give the guy more self-confidence! And isn’t that what they’re \*there \*for?
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> My advice is to cut out the middleman. Why bother going all the way to Asia to get bogged down in paperwork and, y’know, actual expectations that you’ll teach them something. If all you need is some Asian pussy, you can either get a Siamese cat, or [go directly to this harem](http://www.bigbadchinesemama.com/) and select your own beautiful China doll. Who could resist these delicate blossoms of femininity, all living to serve your every need and give you sexual confidence?

Wow. I guess the stereotype of the demure, passive, naive Asian woman is alive and well. As a former English teacher in Taiwan (Taichung and Chia-Yi, '92 - '02) and husband to one of the delicate blossoms referenced above for 13 years, I get a huge chuckle out of your ignorant assumptions. IME, Western guys (and gals) who can’t get laid at home might get a slight advantage when it comes to the first 5 minutes of a relationship (‘that guy has a neckbeard and smells, but he’s from Exotic Phoenix, so I’ll hear him out’), but once you get past that stage it’s all you, Brother (Sister).

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/82 "2009-09-18T16:54:10Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> There’s nothing more to elaborate. “They remind me too much of my own family,” is what she says.

My wife, of Japanese extraction but born in the US and completely American, says the same thing. She wouldn’t want to date her father.

I’ve never been particularly interested in Ashkenzi Jewish because they often remind me of my mother, too.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/83 "2009-09-18T17:21:57Z")

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> [@Jodi](#):
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> On what basis do you assume Asian women are drawn to the exotic just because it is exotic?

I can’t speak for her, but I draw that assumption on the way everyone else seems to act. Try being even vaguely brown skinned around a bunch of corn-fed white boys, and watch how quickly they lose their shit over the girl who looks different. I had someone admit to me recently (Maybe three months ago? People don’t really talk to me all that much about how they’re attracted to me these days since I’m hitched and all) that part of the reason he was so strongly attracted to me is because I don’t resemble the Nordic looking blondes that are around here. He said it like he was kind of ashamed and asked, “Does that make me bad? Or weird?” Not weird, but it makes me kind of irritated. When I was single, this admission was a little more common than I would have liked it to be.

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**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/84 "2009-09-18T17:27:42Z")

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> [@Dogzilla](#):
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> I don’t know if there are any Asian men who are hung like stallions, but the pervasive stereotype that they all have small penises is probably not helping their cause much.

The first (and _last_, thankyouverymuch) time I slept with a man he was Asian and big enough to be…off-putting. And uncomfortable. So I don’t put any faith in that stereotype.

Ow.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/85 "2009-09-18T17:38:49Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> That’s um, my skin color. My living room has dim lighting and I have a cheapy camera, but that’s more or less me. I don’t tan, I don’t fake tan, I don’t use bronzer, I’m not even wearing foundation there\*\*

Actually, you look a lot less orange now that I see the picture on a regular monitor. Maybe I need to download an iPhone app to deorange Italian women.

Odd smirk, though. Had you been sucking lemons?

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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/86 "2009-09-18T17:43:19Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> In what sense was he “half-American”?

In the sense that, if his mother was Japanese and he was therefore half Japanese, then his other half had to be _something_. His father is American, so that’s why I phrased that in that way.

Apparently, I should have said he was a Japanese American? 😕

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/87 "2009-09-18T17:43:30Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Actually, you look a lot less orange now that I see the picture on a regular monitor. Maybe I need to download an iPhone app to deorange Italian women.
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> Odd smirk, though. Had you been sucking lemons?

Yes.

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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/88 "2009-09-18T17:45:44Z")

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> [@CaerieD](#):
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> The first (and _last_, thankyouverymuch) time I slept with a man he was Asian and big enough to be…off-putting. And uncomfortable. So I don’t put any faith in that stereotype.
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> Ow.

Good to know.

Perhaps my ex’s American father had a teeny weenie and the Asian heritage had nothing whatsoever to do with it. It wasn’t like I looked lovingly into his eyes and said, “So. Why do you think your penis is so small?”

😃

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/89 "2009-09-18T17:53:48Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Actually, you look a lot less orange now that I see the picture on a regular monitor. Maybe I need to download an iPhone app to deorange Italian women.

Or change your the iPhone setting to deactivate “Oompa Loompa.”

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/90 "2009-09-18T18:02:52Z")

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> [@Jodi](#):
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> Or change your the iPhone setting to deactivate “Oompa Loompa.”

You guys crack me up. Would you say that he should turn his iphone to “deactivate darkie” if he had a similar issue with a black person? Nice, very nice.

Sure, my skin against that wall paper makes an odd looking contrast, but that’s me. Can’t change my skin, try as I might. I guess I could also rewallpaper my living room and change the lighting, too, but that seems much more labor intensive and costly than I’m willing to work with.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/91 "2009-09-18T18:04:19Z")

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Michael Jackson did it.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/92 "2009-09-18T18:04:24Z")

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This entire thread is strange and revealing of how quite a few Dopers think. Icky.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/93 "2009-09-18T18:06:52Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Michael Jackson did it.

Ha. And I mean, it turned out so well for him, I think I’m going to hop right on that. Now, only if I could moonwalk. . .

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**Author:** ![Heart\_of\_Dorkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4bbf92/32.png) [@Heart\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heart_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/94 "2009-09-18T18:09:09Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> And if anyone cares, she looks white to me. But it seems to me that some people think of white as blonde haired with blue eyes.

Yes. In my high school in the midwest, I think Italian was considered by many to be roughly on par with Hispanic - technically “white”, but still somehow not. This [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11425124#post11425124), and this [post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11429088&postcount=23)in particular, are good examples of what I mean. I think that some people conflate “white” with WASP, as in White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. Italians are commonly neither Anglo-Saxon nor Protestant, therefore, they are less “white”.

Hell, I’ve been called “half-white, half-Polish”, and I’m blonde, blue-eyed, and translucently pale. There is \*no \*one whiter than me. The only kind of sense I can remotely make of this is that again, Poles are W, but usually not AS or P.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/95 "2009-09-18T18:10:34Z")

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Late to the thread, but…

Who wouldn’t want to go to a place where they would feel more wanted?

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/96 "2009-09-18T18:20:55Z")

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Also, what the fuck is it with all this incredible rudeness directed toward DiosaBellissima?

Every once in a while a thread crops up that reveals a slimy underbelly to SDMB. This appears to be one of them.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/97 "2009-09-18T18:22:30Z")

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A couple of extra data points:

- Asian guys do not necessarily have small penises. Says the girl who’s _only_ dated Asian or Indian guys.
- Yes, white guys can be a little bit exotic, even for me, who’s been raised here. I never dated one, was never really friends with one until college, yadda, yadda.
- Asian guys have a notoriously bad rep in Hollywood. When was the last time you saw an Asian guy fucking a white girl in a mainstream movie? Even when matched with her (Replacement Killers)? This doesn’t just apply to Asian men, though, I can’t remember Will Smith being paired up with many (or any) white girls, really. And like it or not, a lot of the public’s perception really does come from Hollywood.

The whole thing about people from here going overseas to teach…well, it depends. If you’re coming over to convert or educate that your way is “better”, stay the hell home. if you’re looking to broaden your horizons and learn about the world while also teaching, sure, why not.

And Diosa, I thought you looked cute. But, you can handle the criticism. It’s like, people see a girl’s pic and they fall over themselves trying to find a flaw in it. Weird.

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**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/98 "2009-09-18T18:40:55Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> Also, what the fuck is it with all this incredible rudeness directed toward DiosaBellissima?
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> Every once in a while a thread crops up that reveals a slimy underbelly to SDMB. This appears to be one of them.

Yeah. What the fuck’s up with that? I think she’s very nice looking. I don’t see any of those critiquing the lighting, skin color, etc. posting their pictures for equal time.

I suspect some are trying to be funny, and maybe you know **DiosaBellissima** off the boards, but you’re coming across awfully dickish in cyberspace. Geez, would it kill you to follow “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all?”

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/99 "2009-09-18T18:43:50Z")

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“No, you don’t understand… Lemons is my _dog_!”

> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> You guys crack me up. Would you say that he should turn his iphone to “deactivate darkie” if he had a similar issue with a black person? Nice, very nice.

Only if the “black” person only looked “black” on my iPhone screen, perhaps. Since you’ve convincingly denied being orange and I’ve admitted that the orange tint was a by-product of my mobile screen, your race-card metaphor crumbles like a pair of dessicated grapefruits.

And yes, I was trying to be funny rather than rude. Apologies to **Diosa** and all the hideous ogres and filthy, stinking hippies.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/attn-losers-go-to-asia-and-get-laid/510504/100 "2009-09-18T18:50:29Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> You guys crack me up. Would you say that he should turn his iphone to “deactivate darkie” if he had a similar issue with a black person? Nice, very nice.

Whoa whoa whoa! Let’s be very clear here as to who I’m razzing: Him, not you. If he’s got some setting on his phone that makes people look orange then he needs to change it. He said as much – my comment that he could do so by “deactivating Oompa Loompa” was a joke. And I thought a pretty funny one, in terms of how you change a setting to make people less orange. Jeezy-Creezy.

I’ve already said I thought your picture was very nice. More importantly, I would NEVER be as bitchy as you’ve just attributed me to be. I might tell a person they’re full of shit if I think they are, but I will NEVER make some shit-heel comment on how someone looks. I don’t care if you’re a Cyclops; the most you’ll ever hear me say is that you have lovely eye.

We don’t know each other very well, but I would have hoped you know me better than that.

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