# Auburn/Oregon live discussion (BCS Championship) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 11, 2011, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auburn-oregon-live-discussion-bcs-championship/567179 "2011-01-11T02:13:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auburn-oregon-live-discussion-bcs-championship/567179/121 "2011-01-13T16:01:00Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > As I posed this query in another thread: > > What SEC Team will win the BCS Game next January? My guess is LSU. This is why people hate you guys. j/k no i’m not. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![cwntoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5fc32e/32.png) [@cwntoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cwntoo)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2011, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auburn-oregon-live-discussion-bcs-championship/567179/122 "2011-01-14T23:40:10Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > Oh please, Kentucky also lost to Ole Miss who lost to Vandy for Christ’s sake! I don’t disagree that a playoff would be ideal, but don’t use “Team X lost to Team Y who beat Team Z!” as your reasoning. Especially if you’re going to use 'Almost beat" or “Only lost by x points”. Because if we use that logic then:. Actually that wasn’t my logic. You suggested TCU was no better than Auburn..Oregon..Ohio State.ect…but offered absolutely nothing to back it…which is understandable because its not even possible. Thus it was a foolish statement. However the next best thing is to look at the fact that TCU defeated a team who clobbered one of those teams on your list..that at least provides a reasonable person to admit that TCU could play with any team at the top…I mean HELLO…they finished SECOND in the polls and are also undefeated…so who’s out to lunch? ``` Auburn almost lost to Kentucky (for real) who lost to Vandy and ole miss...Virginia Tech lost to James Madison then won 11 straight games...You have a strange way of arguing against a point by eventually attempting to make another point by using the same argument you just argued against...wow! ``` Did Auburn win the season championship…yes…but they won the “BCS Formula” championship…there is an undefeated #2 team that never got a fair say. Thanks to the Bowl System the real champion of the 2010-11 season will never be truly known. ---
**Author:** ![cwntoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5fc32e/32.png) [@cwntoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cwntoo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auburn-oregon-live-discussion-bcs-championship/567179/123 "2011-01-15T00:09:05Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > As I posed this query in another thread: > > What SEC Team will win the BCS Game next January? My guess is LSU. No doubt an S.E.C team will at least be in the BCS game. Yeah perhaps L.S.U. Can repeat a two loss season championship run as it did a few years ago including a loss to a very mediocre Arkansas. While other conferences have to jockey and hope the voters pick their conferences one loss team out of a hat..and non-AQ juggernauts like Boise State and TCU are required to go unbeaten and win every game 50 points…a standard never achieved in the history of college football. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auburn-oregon-live-discussion-bcs-championship/567179/124 "2011-01-15T00:14:56Z")
> [@cwntoo](#): > > No doubt an S.E.C team will at least be in the BCS game. Yeah perhaps L.S.U. Can repeat a two loss season championship run as it did a few years ago including a loss to a very mediocre Arkansas. While other conferences have to jockey and hope the voters pick their conferences one loss team out of a hat..and non-AQ juggernauts like Boise State and TCU are required to go unbeaten and win every game 50 points…a standard never achieved in the history of college football. Yes, because we all know that every time an SEC team goes they lose horribly. Why do the voters keep sending SEC teams to the championship when they always lose? It’s not fair! ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auburn-oregon-live-discussion-bcs-championship/567179/125 "2011-01-15T02:26:09Z")
> [@cwntoo](#): > > Actually that wasn’t my logic. You suggested TCU was no better than Auburn..Oregon..Ohio State.ect…but offered absolutely nothing to back it… I think you may have confused me with **Halmet**. ---
**Author:** ![cwntoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5fc32e/32.png) [@cwntoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cwntoo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auburn-oregon-live-discussion-bcs-championship/567179/126 "2011-01-15T13:59:36Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Yes, because we all know that every time an SEC team goes they lose horribly. Why do the voters keep sending SEC teams to the championship when they always lose? It’s not fair! Fair point..but then again no one is debating last years Alabama or the previous years Florida championship teams…however the other three in this five year run have elements of controversy..the L.S.U season where they drew the worst of the one loss teams remaining and this year in particular..I wouldn’t get too comfy with this trend. Of the S.E.C continuing this run…I recall Miami and Florida State dominating for a decade along with the Big 12 having some runs with Nebraska and Oklahoma(next years pick by experts). I love how S.E.C fans some how believe the S.E.C has dominated since the dawn of mankind…its just a trend and I do believe next year will be a BCS championship embarrassment for the S.E.C rep…then the voters will begin to jump off the bandwagon which got its now “dominant” reputation on the back of two very good Florida and Alabama teams who are now graduating its dominant class. Its over. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2011, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auburn-oregon-live-discussion-bcs-championship/567179/127 "2011-01-15T18:40:48Z")
> [@cwntoo](#): > > Fair point..but then again no one is debating last years Alabama or the previous years Florida championship teams…however the other three in this five year run have elements of controversy..the L.S.U season where they drew the worst of the one loss teams remaining and this year in particular..I wouldn’t get too comfy with this trend. Of the S.E.C continuing this run…I recall Miami and Florida State dominating for a decade along with the Big 12 having some runs with Nebraska and Oklahoma(next years pick by experts). I love how S.E.C fans some how believe the S.E.C has dominated since the dawn of mankind…its just a trend and I do believe next year will be a BCS championship embarrassment for the S.E.C rep…then the voters will begin to jump off the bandwagon which got its now “dominant” reputation on the back of two very good Florida and Alabama teams who are now graduating its dominant class. Its over. It might be. I’m not one to talk trash, but don’t expect Alabama to have much of a drop-off next year. In fact, I’d guess that this year was the rebuilding year. We’re bringing back the vast majority of our starters. Yes, we’re losing McElroy. But we have AJ McCarron, who was a better prospect, replacing him. Yes, we’re losing Mark Ingram. Trent Richardson. Nuff said. Yes, we’re losing Julio Jones. This is the most troublesome one to me, but we’re actually quite deep at WR. Marcell Dareus? Meh, sure I’ll miss him, but with the exception of a couple of games, he wasn’t really the difference-maker on D that he was last year, and we have buttloads of D talent lined up halfway to Birmingham. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auburn-oregon-live-discussion-bcs-championship/567179/128 "2011-01-16T16:31:47Z")
Regarding TCU: Could they have beaten Oregon or Auburn? Sure. “On any given day, etc.” Could TCU have beaten South Carolina (twice), Arkansas, LSU, Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Mississippi State and Kentucky, all bowl teams, in one season? Auburn beat seven teams that finished ranked in the BCS top 25. Opinion is opinion, but I don’t think TCU could have run that gauntlet unscathed and that’s what Auburn did to get to the BCS game. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auburn-oregon-live-discussion-bcs-championship/567179.md?page=6)