# Audioscrobbler: find out what Teeming Millions listen to!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 8, 2005, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608 "2005-07-08T17:04:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/61 "2005-07-11T23:41:34Z")

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> [@Jenny Haniver](#):
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> Mine is the Stones, the Sundays, and Elvis Costello. But now I’ll have to find and listen to the Flying Burrito Brothers version as well. I guess it’s blasphemy, but I am partial to the Sundays’ cover.

You should also look into the version by “Old and In the Way”, a bluegrass supergroup featuring Jerry Garcia, David Grisman, and a few other less-famous legends.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/62 "2005-07-11T23:43:53Z")

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> [@Jurph](#):
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> I think that if you happen to listen to lots of different artists (no concentration in any one or two artists) then it waits until it has at least 10 instances of “at least two songs by X” – so it can make a top ten chart. I’ve been going for a week and just got my first chart today.

I was looking around last night, and noticed that all the user charts were dated 7/5/05, so it may just update on Mondays. We’ll know for sure in about a week.

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Side\_of\_the\_Floyd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@Dark\_Side\_of\_the\_Floyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Side_of_the_Floyd)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/63 "2005-07-12T01:13:09Z")

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Hooray for J-Rock.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/64 "2005-07-12T02:04:43Z")

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> [@Jurph](#):
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> You should also look into the version by “Old and In the Way”, a bluegrass supergroup featuring Jerry Garcia, David Grisman, and a few other less-famous legends.

Ooh, I’ve got that version. Fantastic. I’ll have to listen to it today just so it’ll show up on 'scrobbler.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/65 "2005-07-12T03:32:39Z")

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Regarding Wild Horses, Charlotte Martin does a killer version live. She’s a big fan of the Sundays version.

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**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/66 "2005-07-12T14:16:13Z")

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> [@ultrafilter](#):
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> I was looking around last night, and noticed that all the user charts were dated 7/5/05, so it may just update on Mondays. We’ll know for sure in about a week.

It updates whenever. Trying to figure out a pattern will only lead to ruin. Earlier this year it didn’t update for 6 weeks or so.

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**Author:** ![Demo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demo/32/8472_2.png) [@Demo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demo)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/67 "2005-07-12T17:13:45Z")

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Ah this is very cool. I just signed up as Democritus.

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**Author:** ![available\_light](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@available\_light](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/available_light)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/68 "2005-07-13T01:57:47Z")

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Supercool! I’ve signed up & joined the group as AvailableLight.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/69 "2005-07-13T23:06:07Z")

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I joined as FerretHerder. Looks like it’ll take a while to populate my played lists, etc. Very interesting!

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/70 "2005-07-13T23:21:33Z")

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Hmm…

It looks like Audioscrobbler doesn’t submit tracks that are under a certain length (most likely 30 seconds). That kinda sucks for us grindcore fans.

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**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/71 "2005-07-14T04:27:13Z")

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> [@ultrafilter](#):
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> Hmm…
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> It looks like Audioscrobbler doesn’t submit tracks that are under a certain length (most likely 30 seconds). That kinda sucks for us grindcore fans.

I’m not sure that’s the case – I’ve got a They Might Be Giants song called “Fingertips” consisting of 19 tracks, each under 30 seconds, and it skewed my playlist something awful. I think the plug-in checks what you’re listening every N seconds, and if it gets the same answer often enough, it sends the result. Might be that it needs to hear the same track for 30+ seconds, but I’ve gotten some sub-30 songs to show up, I think.

Also, my apologies in advance: I left my player on “repeat one” this morning when I left for work. So this week’s number one track will probably be **The Jeep Song** by the Dresden Dolls. It’s a great song, but I hate the fact that I’ve skewed the group’s statistics so badly. :smack:

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/72 "2005-07-14T04:31:07Z")

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> [@Jurph](#):
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> I’m not sure that’s the case – I’ve got a They Might Be Giants song called “Fingertips” consisting of 19 tracks, each under 30 seconds, and it skewed my playlist something awful. I think the plug-in checks what you’re listening every N seconds, and if it gets the same answer often enough, it sends the result. Might be that it needs to hear the same track for 30+ seconds, but I’ve gotten some sub-30 songs to show up, I think.

Huh. I’ll have to play around with it.

> [@](#):
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> Also, my apologies in advance: I left my player on “repeat one” this morning when I left for work. So this week’s number one track will probably be **The Jeep Song** by the Dresden Dolls. It’s a great song, but I hate the fact that I’ve skewed the group’s statistics so badly. :smack:

Nothing to worry about. Audioscrobbler charts for a group are based solely on the number of people who play a track/artist in a given week and don’t use the play count. Now your own personal chart, that’s a different story…

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2005, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/73 "2005-07-14T04:33:37Z")

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I suppose I could make up some back story about how my 13-year-old niece is using my computer and that’s why Disney music and the occasional Britney Spears song (just “Toxic,” I swear to God) will show up in my playlist. But I don’t think anyone would believe me.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/74 "2005-07-15T22:03:10Z")

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Does anyone know if Audioscrobbler notes tracks that are listened to via internet radio? I use iTunes to listen to the radio about as often as I use it to listen to MP3s…

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/75 "2005-07-15T22:20:50Z")

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> [@Misnomer](#):
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> Does anyone know if Audioscrobbler notes tracks that are listened to via internet radio? I use iTunes to listen to the radio about as often as I use it to listen to MP3s…

That seems unlikely. I’m not sure about iTunes, but in Winamp I can see the last 5 tracks submitted by going to configure the plug-in.

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**Author:** ![Jenny\_Haniver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Jenny\_Haniver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenny_Haniver)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/76 "2005-07-16T00:09:17Z")

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I seem to be having a problem - audioscrobbler is only getting tracks to add to my “recently played” list if I’ve got a window with audioscrobbler up at the same time as winamp - anything played with my browser closed or on another site doesn’t show up.

Anybody able to shed some light on this? Is that just how the plugin works?

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**Author:** ![psycat90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@psycat90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psycat90)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/77 "2005-07-16T00:27:35Z")

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> [@Jenny Haniver](#):
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> I seem to be having a problem - audioscrobbler is only getting tracks to add to my “recently played” list if I’ve got a window with audioscrobbler up at the same time as winamp - anything played with my browser closed or on another site doesn’t show up.
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> Anybody able to shed some light on this? Is that just how the plugin works?

No. It’s possible that by coincidence, the songs you are playing while your browser is closed are not tagged correctly. You can look at the log file of the plugin to see what the exact problem is.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/78 "2005-07-16T01:47:10Z")

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> [@Jenny Haniver](#):
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> I seem to be having a problem - audioscrobbler is only getting tracks to add to my “recently played” list if I’ve got a window with audioscrobbler up at the same time as winamp - anything played with my browser closed or on another site doesn’t show up.

I’m having a problem too…my Recently Played list is displaying songs that I played three days ago and nothing since then, except for what I’m playing now.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/79 "2005-07-16T01:49:37Z")

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Not only that, apparently those songs from three days ago are being counted twice for that artist!

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/audioscrobbler-find-out-what-teeming-millions-listen-to/311608/80 "2005-07-16T02:35:18Z")

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There’s a blurb on the frontpage mentioning that they’ve been having some database problems lately. My guess is that the traffic is a little high and the server is acting funny cause of it.

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