# August 2014 Botticelli

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 3, 2014, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690 "2014-08-03T00:37:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/401 "2014-08-18T17:42:58Z")

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DQs:

1. Living?
2. Known for the Performing Arts?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/402 "2014-08-18T17:46:08Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you a literary feline named after a cheese wheel?
2. Are you the hero of the Ulster Cycle?
3. Are you the present King of the Middle Kingdom in the SCA?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/403 "2014-08-18T17:54:20Z")

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IQ1: Did you write The Hunt for Red October?  
IQ2: Are you known for your collaborations with director John Woo in films like the The Killer?  
IQ3: Are you the lead vocalist of rock bands Linkin Park and Dead by Sunrise?

Not Tom Clancy.  
DQ.  
DQ.

correct, Chow Yun-fat, Chester Benningfield

saving 2 DQs

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/404 "2014-08-18T18:07:52Z")

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IQ1: Are you the only female performer to have received Grammy nominations in the jazz, popular and classical music categories?  
IQ2: Are you a pioneer in the field of radioactivity and the discoverer of two new elements, radium and polonium?  
IQ3: Are you the 67th US Secretary of State?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2014, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/405 "2014-08-18T18:56:34Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> My answer was valid (unless he is no longer a moderator). Therefore, no DQ.
> 
> **C**
> 
> 1. Female
> 2. Last name starts with C

SOP has been to grant DQs under those circumstances, so have fun figuring it out guys!

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/406 "2014-08-19T01:45:09Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you a literary feline named after a cheese wheel?
> 2. Are you the hero of the Ulster Cycle?
> 3. Are you the present King of the Middle Kingdom in the SCA?

Not … the Cheshire Cat?  
Not Cu Chulainn  
DQ. (Sadly, we haven’t been active in the SCA the last few years.)

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the only female performer to have received Grammy nominations in the jazz, popular and classical music categories?  
> IQ2: Are you a pioneer in the field of radioactivity and the discoverer of two new elements, radium and polonium?  
> IQ3: Are you the 67th US Secretary of State?

DQ.  
Not Marie Curie.  
Not … Condoleezza Rice?

**C**

1. Female
2. Last name starts with C
3. Real
4. Dead
5. Known for the Performing Arts

Getting psychic, are we? Narrowing it down to the performing arts without even asking about the Arts in general first?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/407 "2014-08-19T01:52:47Z")

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[QUOTE]

IQs:

1. Are you a literary feline named after a cheese wheel?
2. Are you the hero of the Ulster Cycle?
3. Are you the present King of the Middle Kingdom in the SCA?

Not … the Cheshire Cat?  
Not Cu Chulainn  
DQ. (Sadly, we haven’t been active in the SCA the last few years.)

Correct on the first two. King Cameron is the present ruler.

(Hey, it saved a question.)

DQ: Died since 1960?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/408 "2014-08-19T01:55:43Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you the #1 recording artist of the 1st half of the 20th Century?
2. Did you play Hagrid in the Harry Potter movies?
3. Were you part of a trio that included Jimmy Durante?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/409 "2014-08-19T02:07:24Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> SOP has been to grant DQs under those circumstances, so have fun figuring it out guys!

[This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17045301&highlight=rephrase#post17045301), [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17029536&highlight=rephrase#post17029536), [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17013769&highlight=rephrase#post17013769) and [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16928259&highlight=rephrase#post16928259) are posts - one of them in a game you hosted - where EH received an answer that was not the person he was thinking of, and said that he would rephrase the question. (There are plenty of other such posts.)

[This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16678444&highlight=rephrase#post16678444) and [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16596231&highlight=rephrase#post16596231) are posts where I did the same thing. (Again, there are others.)

[Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17224509#post17224509) is one where Chockfull did.

Prof P has also done so, but he doesn’t use the convenient word _rephrase_, so his examples aren’t as easy to find.

And it would probably take a while, but I’m sure I could also find the post from the last time I denied you a DQ, for the same reason.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/410 "2014-08-19T02:21:00Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you the #1 recording artist of the 1st half of the 20th Century?
> 2. Did you play Hagrid in the Harry Potter movies?
> 3. Were you part of a trio that included Jimmy Durante?

Not … Enrico Caruso?  
Not Robbie Coltrane.  
DQ.

**C**

1. Female
2. Last name starts with C
3. Real
4. Dead
5. Known for the Performing Arts
6. Died since 1960

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/411 "2014-08-19T03:31:42Z")

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I agree with **SCAdian**. An IQ answer that is accurate, even if it is not the person you were expecting, does not earn you a DQ. You should rephrase, or drop it and ask a different question.

IQs:

According to _Game Change_, were you rumored to be having an affair with a Canadian MP after 2005?  
Were you the first to fly across America, “crash by crash”?  
Were you a noted later head of the Galactic Empire in Asimov’s _Foundation_ books?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/412 "2014-08-19T03:56:48Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> According to _Game Change_, were you rumored to be having an affair with a Canadian MP after 2005?  
> Were you the first to fly across America, “crash by crash”?  
> Were you a noted later head of the Galactic Empire in Asimov’s _Foundation_ books?

DQ.  
DQ.  
Not … Cleon?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/413 "2014-08-19T12:13:25Z")

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Originally Posted by Knowed Out View Post  
IQ1: Are you the only female performer to have received Grammy nominations in the jazz, popular and classical music categories?  
IQ2: Are you a pioneer in the field of radioactivity and the discoverer of two new elements, radium and polonium?  
IQ3: Are you the 67th US Secretary of State?

DQ.  
Not Marie Curie.  
Not … Condoleezza Rice?

Cleo Laine, correct, Hillary Clinton

DQ: American?  
DQ: Cause of death from the effects of old age?

2 DQs in reserve

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/414 "2014-08-19T12:20:36Z")

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**etv** , don’t quit the game because of one question. Earning DQs isn’t really that vital. I’ve found that the letter master can miss all the IQs, and it doesn’t matter as long as the players haven’t narrowed down the mystery guest’s identity. Besides, you don’t want to get to the 20 question limit too soon anyway.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/415 "2014-08-19T12:59:23Z")

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IQ1: Did your adopted daughter write about you in _Mommie Dearest_?  
IQ2: Are you the first female solo artist inducted to the Country Music Hall of Fame, and known for the hit “I Fall to Pieces”?  
IQ3: Is your real name Émilie Chauchoin, and did you star in _It Happened One Night_?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/416 "2014-08-19T13:19:29Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> DQ: American?  
> DQ: Cause of death from the effects of old age?

Yes. No.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Did your adopted daughter write about you in _Mommie Dearest_?  
> IQ2: Are you the first female solo artist inducted to the Country Music Hall of Fame, and known for the hit “I Fall to Pieces”?  
> IQ3: Is your real name Émilie Chauchoin, and did you star in _It Happened One Night_?

I think your first one is Joan Crawford, and I’m going to take a wild guess and say that your third is Claudette Colbert, but those answers don’t matter because …

Yes! I am Patsy Cline.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/417 "2014-08-19T14:09:10Z")

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Way to go, KO!

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/418 "2014-08-19T14:55:28Z")

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Woo Hoo! Yes, Claudette Colbert is correct.

Let’s go to the next letter in the alphabet: D

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/419 "2014-08-19T14:58:20Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you Prime Minister under Queen Victoria’s reign?
2. Are you a time-traveling DC comics supervillain?
3. Were you one of Jesus’s inner circle of 12 disciples?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2014, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2014-botticelli/694690/420 "2014-08-19T14:58:36Z")

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IQ1) Did you inspire the famous bumper sticker “Vote For the Crook- It’s Important”?

IQ2) Were you both a teacher of rock star Lou Reed and the inspiration for Saul Bellow’s novel _ **Humboldt’s Gift** _?

IQ3) Did you break the hearts of the Red Sox Nation in a special 1978 playoff game?

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