# August 2018 White Civil Rights Rally in Washington, DC. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575 "2018-06-22T15:54:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/81 "2018-08-12T06:21:29Z")
The only story I’m hearing is about some of the counter protestors who showed up. They screamed at police to get out of the way, they made comments in the media about the police being super militarized, called them Nazis, etc. I’m hearing nothing about the white nationalists either. Which means…we won! Love trumped hate! ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/82 "2018-08-12T16:09:40Z")
Still on the schedule for this evening: > **['Not in my town': Counterprotesters outnumber Unite the Right 2 white...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/08/12/unite-right-2-rallies-mark-anniversary-charlottesville/970763002/)** > > Far-right activists arriving for the 'Unite the Right 2' rally were heavily outnumbered by a phalanx of law enforcement officers and counterprotesters who shouted emphatically and urged them to go home. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/83 "2018-08-12T16:21:15Z")
Ahh, the evening. I suppose the tiki torches lose their gravitas in the sunlight. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/84 "2018-08-12T16:22:27Z")
His permit is only until 8pm tonight, as per the application linked in the OP. And it began yesterday at 8am; were there any people or events yesterday that anyone knows of? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/85 "2018-08-12T18:39:20Z")
Live video posted on Facebook of white nationalists assembling in Vienna: 30 minutes, I haven’t watched the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/86 "2018-08-12T19:05:20Z")
The “crying Nazi” was Christopher Cantwell, who you can find lots of stories about by Googling “crying Nazi” 🙂 According to this article, “[Crying Nazi Banned from Virginia](https://splinternews.com/crying-nazi-banned-from-virginia-for-5-years-1827776742)” the guy is banned from Virginia. I looked at **raventhief** ’s video and the guy at the center of that vid who appears to be “Jason Kessler” is definitely not the same guy as Christopher Cantwell. ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/87 "2018-08-12T19:07:06Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Live video posted on Facebook of white nationalists assembling in Vienna: > > [Redirecting...](https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1900951726679374&id=426269657480929&_rdr) > > 30 minutes, I haven’t watched the whole thing. The anti-racist crowds are quite large already > ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/88 "2018-08-12T19:33:23Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Jason Kessler, one of the two who brought racism & death to Charlottesville last year, [has filed an application for a permit for a 2 day event in Lafayette Park (11-12 August) dubbed a “White Civil Rights Rally”](https://www.nps.gov/aboutus/foia/upload/18-1166-Jason-Kessler-application_Redacted.pdf). The Park Service has approved the application but has not yet issued a permit. > > Observant observers will note that the dates coincide with last year’s “Unite The Right” Rally in Charlottesville as well as with the day that Heather Heyers was killed by James Fields (and many others were injured, of course). > > I don’t have any thoughts to share right now concerning Mr. Kessler and his friends that wouldn’t be considered vile and way out of line for a civilized person to have, let alone express. But my blood boils when I [read/hear things like this](https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/white-civil-rights-rally-application-approved-for-dc/65-565729881):Yeah, see, this guy somehow thinks he’s the aggrieved party here.:eek:😕Rebuttal:Mr. Kessler’s myopia leads him to disagree, of course. > I would very much like for this to be the last White Power/Racist rally in America for quite some time. I would like for this to happen so much, that I might find it difficult to criticize whatever methods were employed to ensure that outcome. I’d like to see 100,000 or more show up to protest the 400 Nazis and remind them that Americans hate Nazis (particularly Illinois Nazis, I should point out) so much that Americans actually stopped everything and went to war so we could legally kill Nazis. > > The Park Service will likely issue the permit; do counter-protest groups need one or can they just show up? What if it’s not actually a group, just 100,000 like-minded people all independently deciding to head down to Lafayette Park on those two days to yell at Nazis? > > Because fuck you, you fucking Nazi fucks. Veiled advocating violence is still advocating violence. Why are you in favor of mob violence to suppress civil rights? ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/89 "2018-08-12T19:39:32Z")
Kessler is bummed that they can’t take their flag poles on the train or downtown. [https://twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/1028718311620706304](https://twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/1028718311620706304) Someone must have read their discord logs about the plan to use them as weapons. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/90 "2018-08-12T19:41:03Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Veiled advocating violence is still advocating violence. > > Why are you in favor of mob violence to suppress civil rights? That is not what he said, yelling at them is not advocating violence. If you jumped the “killing Nazis legally” line that is what happened when they declared war on America back in 1940’s. So, since there is no declaration of war we are limited to yell at them at most now. And Nazis are still deplorable. ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/91 "2018-08-12T19:47:20Z")
For those who didn’t see why they want flag polls. This has been a common plan for a while. [[Album] Why Nazi's want their precious flag polls ![](https://i.imgur.com/sYbKCoG.jpeg?fb "Why Nazi") ](https://imgur.com/a/H7lyvFh) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/92 "2018-08-12T23:41:24Z")
Well Bless their Hearts: > [@](#): > > Approximately\*\*\* two dozen\*\*\* white nationalists rallied in the nation’s capital on Sunday, (Bolding/Italics mine). From here: [https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/12/us/unite-the-right-charlottesville-anniversary/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/12/us/unite-the-right-charlottesville-anniversary/index.html) Hell, given a couple of months we could probably get more Straight Dopers to meet in Washington, D.C. on a Sunday (of course, instead of protesting, we’d go out for pizza and beer). Kessler (Der Leader): > [@](#): > > blamed the low turnout on logistical issues and confusion regarding the group’s transportation – a claim echoed by at least two men who spoke to reporters. “People are scared to come out after what happened last year,” one of the men added. Good. Let the bullies cower for a change. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/93 "2018-08-13T00:47:40Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Veiled advocating violence is still advocating violence. > > Why are you in favor of mob violence to suppress civil rights? This is the whinge that comes out of your barf-hole in connection with Nazis? Do you expect us to believe you’re an ACLU member standing on principle to defend people you detest?? No; you wouldn’t know a principle if it pulverized your scrotum. Eat shit, you mother-fucking racist. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/94 "2018-08-13T01:29:26Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Veiled advocating violence is still advocating violence. > > Why are you in favor of mob violence to suppress civil rights? Fun fact: this is the first time that **octopus** has used the term “civil rights” on this board, and it is out of concern for Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/95 "2018-08-13T01:51:20Z")
Yeah, that’s his contribution to a thread about a racist 20-man march on Washington. Fuck that guy. He can lick my left nut. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/96 "2018-08-13T03:21:14Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > This is the whinge that comes out of your barf-hole in connection with Nazis? Do you expect us to believe you’re an ACLU member standing on principle to defend people you detest?? No; you wouldn’t know a principle if it pulverized your scrotum. > > Eat shit, you mother-fucking racist. Whinge? You are too retarded to explain why constitutional rights need to be defended even for the unpopular or ugly points of view. So I won’t bother. I even defend your right to be a lying, retarded potty mouth. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/97 "2018-08-13T03:23:00Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Fun fact: this is the first time that **octopus** has used the term “civil rights” on this board, and it is out of concern for Nazis. Is that really a fact? :dubious: > [@bobot](#): > > Yeah, that’s his contribution to a thread about a racist 20-man march on Washington. Fuck that guy. He can lick my left nut. Nah. Your left nut is reserved for your dog. Not that I’m judging. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/98 "2018-08-13T06:39:46Z")
No tear gas was used, no blood shed, today was a good day. Has Il Douche taken credit for that yet? ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/99 "2018-08-13T07:03:19Z")
Can someone post a list of the civil rights these guybare desirous of protecting/claiming and how each of them is being denied, impeded abridged etc? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/100 "2018-08-13T10:46:09Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Whinge? You are too retarded to explain why constitutional rights need to be defended even for the unpopular or ugly points of view. So I won’t bother. I even defend your right to be a lying, retarded potty mouth. 🙂 I’m glad you replied. Now I can tell you how I really feel. 🙂 First of all, your team was outnumbered 100-to-1 by anti-Nazis at yesterday’s celebration of your own ugly thinking. _But not one of your snowflakes sprained a finger_. If your ilk had that kind of outnumbering against blacks or browns there’d have been lynching. Second: You are oh-so very eager to defend the rights of Nazis and pretend that you have ideals similar to those of the ACLU. What a nasty hypocrite you are! _ **The ACLU also defends blacks and browns and other people that your ilk hate.** _ Please point to any post you’ve ever made in which you argued for the rights of blacks or immigrants as eagerly as you defend your Nazi friends. In a recent post you claimed that you didn’t vote for Donald Trump. I’ve no idea if that’s even true — lying is a hallmark of you scumbags. But even supposing you were not lying; it’s a sure bet you didn’t vote for Hillary. My guesses? (1) You voted for Gary Johnson — the utter nitwit who appeals to racist pseudo-intellectuals. (2) You found some turd on the ballot even more despicable than Trump. (3) You live in Alabama or some other shithole state and didn’t bother to vote, knowing Trump would win the shithole easily. What do I win? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575.md?page=6)