# August 2018 White Civil Rights Rally in Washington, DC. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575 "2018-06-22T15:54:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/101 "2018-08-13T11:51:41Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Nah. Your left nut is reserved for your dog. Not that I’m judging. What a potty mouth! ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/102 "2018-08-13T12:20:36Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Veiled advocating violence is still advocating violence. > > Why are you in favor of mob violence to suppress civil rights? I’m sure that all the Nazis that frequent this board are glad they have you to defend them. I expect Steophan to send you a gift basket any minute now. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/103 "2018-08-13T12:45:23Z")
Well, that was quite Womp Wompy an affair. OTOH having it late on a Sunday is a recipe for low turnout, people have jobs to go back to on Monday. Still, when it comes to neofascist racial supremacists, it is rightful and good to let it be known loudly and explicitly, how they are repudiated and unwelcome. (Meanwhile, and FWIW, if a lack of participation in _those_ activities means that in turn the sweethearts from the black-bloc/blackflagger crowd don’t get as much of a chance to do much of \*their \*thing either, that’s a win-win IMO.) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/104 "2018-08-13T12:48:21Z")
Gotta love how some come into a thread about a group of Nazis who are openly celebrating the anniversary of when they managed to kill a counterprotester and go sackcloth and ashes about the poor, oppressed Nazi’s civil rights rather than, say, condemning them for being racist genocidal Nazis. Cry for the Nazis, cry for them HARDER. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/105 "2018-08-13T13:13:03Z")
The best part of that rally was the on-site CNN reporter openly laughing on live TV because of how few white nationalists were there. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/106 "2018-08-13T13:38:41Z")
I don’t necessarily subscribe to the idea that hate speech ought to be protected. That doesn’t represent some naive assumption on my part that you can stamp out racism by suppressing those ideas, but there’s something to be said for not exacerbating ethnic conflicts. We’re the only modern democratic society I know of that assumes all speech, no matter how divisive and repugnant it is, must be protected as if it were as valuable as the writings of Thoma Paine or Thomas Jefferson. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/107 "2018-08-13T13:43:56Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > The best part of that rally was the on-site CNN reporter openly laughing on live TV because of how few white nationalists were there. They realized quickly they picked the wrong venue; Washington, DC is a diverse melting pot of highly educated people, and it’s close to other metropolises from which people can arrive by train within an hour or two. Not the ideal location for angry, white, racist, chauvinistic shit kickers. Charlottesville was a better location, but they kinda wore out their welcome. For their next shit show, I suspect they’ll probably have some sort of Woodstock for rednecks. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/108 "2018-08-13T14:11:56Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I’m sure that all the Nazis that frequent this board are glad they have you to defend them. I expect Steophan to send you a gift basket any minute now. Nice. 🆒 Don’t want to let this go unappreciated. Any attempt at claiming this is about principle was lost when their rights were perfectly honored, and you’re still complaining. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/109 "2018-08-13T14:15:08Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > The best part of that rally was the on-site CNN reporter openly laughing on live TV because of how few white nationalists were there. Anyone got a link to video? Not seeing it in a Google video search yet. This would go great with the tuba. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/110 "2018-08-13T14:36:29Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > people have jobs to go back to on Monday Maybe not, if they’re stupid enough to show their faces and get publicly identified as Nazi scum. No doubt that contributed to low turnout. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/111 "2018-08-13T14:37:56Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Is that really a fact? :dubious: Sometimes you surprise even yourself, then? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/112 "2018-08-13T14:44:16Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Anyone got a link to video? Not seeing it in a Google video search yet. > > This would go great with the tuba. Not sure if that would be captured. Just happened to see it when I turned CNN on for a few minutes. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/113 "2018-08-13T15:50:00Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I’m glad you replied. Now I can tell you how I really feel. 🙂 How exciting. > [@](#): > > First of all, your team was outnumbered 100-to-1 by anti-Nazis at yesterday’s celebration of your own ugly thinking. _But not one of your snowflakes sprained a finger_. If your ilk had that kind of outnumbering against blacks or browns there’d have been lynching. There you go. Lying again. Bad septimus! Bad! > [@](#): > > Second: You are oh-so very eager to defend the rights of Nazis and pretend that you have ideals similar to those of the ACLU. What a nasty hypocrite you are! _ **The ACLU also defends blacks and browns and other people that your ilk hate.** _ Please point to any post you’ve ever made in which you argued for the rights of blacks or immigrants as eagerly as you defend your Nazi friends. I defended Colin Kaepernick in several posts. However, I was unaware there was now a quota for the advocation of civil rights. Why is it you and others want to use violence to deprive people of the right to speak? Why do you hate the constitution? Why do you lie so much? > [@](#): > > In a recent post you claimed that you didn’t vote for Donald Trump. I’ve no idea if that’s even true — lying is a hallmark of you scumbags. But even supposing you were not lying; it’s a sure bet you didn’t vote for Hillary. > > My guesses? > (1) You voted for Gary Johnson — the utter nitwit who appeals to racist pseudo-intellectuals. > (2) You found some turd on the ballot even more despicable than Trump. > (3) You live in Alabama or some other shithole state and didn’t bother to vote, knowing Trump would win the shithole easily. > What do I win? Why are you racist against Alabama? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/114 "2018-08-13T15:52:20Z")
In his defense, Alabama is just objectively awful. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/115 "2018-08-13T15:52:30Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I don’t necessarily subscribe to the idea that hate speech ought to be protected. That doesn’t represent some naive assumption on my part that you can stamp out racism by suppressing those ideas, but there’s something to be said for not exacerbating ethnic conflicts. We’re the only modern democratic society I know of that assumes all speech, no matter how divisive and repugnant it is, must be protected as if it were as valuable as the writings of Thoma Paine or Thomas Jefferson. Define hate speech and get to work on an amendment. Until then, encouraging violence is all you have to silence views you don’t agree with. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/116 "2018-08-13T15:59:51Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Fun fact: this is the first time that **octopus** has used the term “civil rights” on this board, and it is out of concern for Nazis. I think he’s a fucking Nazi, or pretty fucking close. I already knew he was a scumbag. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/117 "2018-08-13T16:01:14Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Define hate speech [Catch up.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_in_the_United_States) ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/118 "2018-08-13T16:01:50Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I think he’s a fucking Nazi, or pretty fucking close. I already knew he was a scumbag. No one cares what you think, aside from other pro mob violence posters, because you are one of the unhinged and violent on this board. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/119 "2018-08-13T16:02:27Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Well, that was quite Womp Wompy an affair. OTOH having it late on a Sunday is a recipe for low turnout, **people have jobs to go back to** on Monday. > > Still, when it comes to neofascist racial supremacists, it is rightful and good to let it be known loudly and explicitly, how they are repudiated and unwelcome. > > (Meanwhile, and FWIW, if a lack of participation in _those_ activities means that in turn the sweethearts from the black-bloc/blackflagger crowd don’t get as much of a chance to do much of \*their \*thing either, that’s a win-win IMO.) Personally, I hope a lot of employers see these Nazis in video and photos - so they have no job anymore. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575/120 "2018-08-13T16:02:51Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [Catch up.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_in_the_United_States) Now get to work on that amendment. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-2018-white-civil-rights-rally-in-washington-dc/816575.md?page=7)