# August Londope -- plan now, and avoid the rush

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 30, 2003, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136 "2003-04-30T13:10:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/241 "2003-05-16T14:26:11Z")

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Aaaww… poor **garius**. I’d rush over to help you, but I’m afraid of the insane beenie baby hurling woman…

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/242 "2003-05-16T14:29:05Z")

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you’d be even more scared if you’d seen her Lady Macbeth :eek:

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/243 "2003-05-16T14:29:52Z")

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Not all the perfume in Arabia would sweeten her hand?

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/244 "2003-05-16T14:42:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Angua \*  
> \*\*Not all the perfume in Arabia would sweeten her hand? \*\*

Nay. nor canst the minister pluck from her memory a rooted sorrow or cleanse the stuff’d bosom of that perilous stuff which weighs upon her heart.  
If he could i would applaud him to the very echo, that should applaud again.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/245 "2003-05-16T15:56:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by garius \*  
> \*\*Nay. nor canst the minister pluck from her memory a rooted sorrow or cleanse the stuff’d bosom of that perilous stuff which weighs upon her heart.  
> \*\*

Out out damned spot!

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/246 "2003-05-16T16:29:40Z")

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> ::looks around to make sure the garigirl or jr8 aren’t watching::

We can all see you. There is such a thing as email, you know 😉

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/247 "2003-05-16T16:36:21Z")

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Damn! 🙂

::Hides under desk for fear of retribution from the **garigirl** , or **jr8’s** firehose::

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**Author:** ![Anahita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9a28c/32.png) [@Anahita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anahita)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/248 "2003-05-16T19:33:14Z")

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Seems it’s cheaper for me to fly from Galway to Luton, instead of Shannon to Gatwick (Shannon is a good distance away).

Is it hard to get from Luton Airport to London? Which is further from London, Luton or Gatwick? How much would each trip cost (roughly).

The Galway-Luton flight is about 60Euros more, but after paying the shuttle to get to Shannon, it works out to be the same price.

So, what I’m saying is…where is Luton?

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**Author:** ![Tir\_Tinuviel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@Tir\_Tinuviel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tir_Tinuviel)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/249 "2003-05-16T20:43:04Z")

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**Annie**

Luton is way north of London, Gatwick is way south.  
If you can get a flight to Heathrow or London City, then your much closer into town. I know Standstead is only about 45 mins to an hour away from me, but then it’s and extra 45 mins to an hour to get into central London from Barnet. I’ve never flown from Gatwick, cos it’s just too far south (for me), and I’ve never flown from Luton, cos it’s further north than Stanstead.

As for which out of Gatwick or Luton is better situated or connected for you for you, I dont really know, I’d have to ask my dad, I’ll find out for you tonight.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/250 "2003-05-16T22:21:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Angua \*  
> \*\*::Hides under desk for fear of retribution from the **garigirl** , or **jr8’s** firehose:: \*\*

Yes, my firehose often frightens women.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/251 "2003-05-16T23:52:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jr8 \*  
> \*\*Yes, my firehose often frightens women. \*\*

Really? Well, in that case, how’re _you_ doing? 😉

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**Author:** ![Tir\_Tinuviel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@Tir\_Tinuviel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tir_Tinuviel)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/252 "2003-05-17T12:19:40Z")

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**Annie** ,

I spoke to my dad, he reckons Gatwick would be a better option for you, as it has the Gatwick Express which takes 30 mins to get to Victoria.

AFAIK Luton doesn’t have an express train.

🙂

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/253 "2003-05-17T15:03:59Z")

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**Tir** and **Annie.**

That Gatwick Express is a one of the loftier con tricks perpetrated by the airport and the rail network. It is usually horrifically over-crowded and they frequently cancel scheduled runs on a whim. The train may actually run on the tracks for 30 minutes, but getting to it and on it at the Gatwick end can take forever, and getting off it and out of Victoria Stn at the other end can also take forever.

When you arrive at Luton, you walk out and catch a free bus to the rail station. At the rail stn you can get reasonably frequent trains which take you as far into London as you want to go.

I’m not saying which is best. I’m just saying it’s not quite as cut and dried as one might think. I’ve used both services, and I agree on balance that for a furriner then the Gatwick option perhaps has the edge because of the simpler direct connection to Victoria, which takes you right to the heart of town. But Luton is a lot quieter, a lot less crowded and a perfectly viable way to go.

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**Author:** ![Anahita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9a28c/32.png) [@Anahita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anahita)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2003, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/254 "2003-05-18T07:56:08Z")

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Thanks, **Tir** and **Ianizin** , for the travel info. I’ll probably booking later this month or early next month.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2003, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/255 "2003-05-18T13:57:03Z")

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> Let’s set the event at August 23rd at the Silver Cross on Whitehall.

Luton dope checking in. Count me in.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/256 "2003-05-18T14:17:02Z")

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I fly into London quite a lot, and though the fastest route is definitely the express from Heathrow, it’s an astronomical rip-off (and the walk from the terminal is interminable). Also, I don’t know how well served Dublin is by Gatwick. My recommendation is Stansted, which is only 45 mins by train from Liverpool St. and the tube.

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**Author:** ![Anahita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9a28c/32.png) [@Anahita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anahita)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2003, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/257 "2003-05-18T16:05:55Z")

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I’m going to contact a bucket shop to see if they’ve got any ideas. I’ll also be booking a hotel (at least for one night, hopefully, I will also stay at **Francesca** ’s place a few days as well.

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2003, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/258 "2003-05-18T16:12:38Z")

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Really? I haven’t invited you. Who said you could stay?

😃

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**Author:** ![Anahita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9a28c/32.png) [@Anahita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anahita)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2003, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/259 "2003-05-18T17:16:22Z")

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Fine, then!  
Fine! See if I bring you cheese or bottles of wine! See if I got to the Honeypot! I’ll go v shopping with someone else then!

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2003, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/august-londope-plan-now-and-avoid-the-rush/172136/260 "2003-05-18T17:18:40Z")

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V shopping! You crack me up.

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