# Auke Pattist: a big, fat, posthumous FUCK YOU. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 27, 2001, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auke-pattist-a-big-fat-posthumous-fuck-you/59742 "2001-03-27T22:50:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2001, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auke-pattist-a-big-fat-posthumous-fuck-you/59742/1 "2001-03-27T22:50:16Z")
So I was reading the paper yesterday. The usual: hoof and mouth disease, railroad strikes, poor weather forecast. All of a sudden, I spot an obituary. It was for Auke Pattist (the online version is [here](http://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws/nederland/360025272.html?history=/i345028200), but it’s in Dutch). Now, this surprised me. I’d heard of this guy before, but was under the impression that he passed away decades ago. Not so, apparently. So, what is it that Auke did that pisses me off? Let me translate the gist of the article here. " **War criminal Auke Pattist dies** At age 80, he passed away last wednesday in the Spanish town of Oviedo. After WWII, Pattist had already ran off to Spain when he was sentenced to death (in adsence) for torture, treason, and cooperation to razzias, tortures, and executions. Allegedly, he was also a member of the Amsterdam based _Politie Bataljon_ (_a local Nazi branch, consisting of Dutch people that ratted on Jews in hiding, and on resistance members. They were considered worse than the Nazis, and rightly so_). … Pattist was able to hide undetected -whilst running a translation agency- in Spain until 1979, when Simon Wiesenthal tracked him down (_Wiesenthal is the most famous Nazi hunter ever. Check out his organisations [website](http://www.wiesenthal.com)_). By then, his death sentence had already been converted to a life-long one due to the withdrawal of the death penalty from Dutch law. Spain refused to hand over Pattist to the Dutch authorities - he had succesfully claimed Spanish citizenship in 1968, and Spain defended their “subject” as if he was born there. And as if he had always been a model citizen. … Pattist was known as a Nazi _pur sang_. He fought as a member of the Waffen SS on the German Eastern Front. In 1944, he returned to the Netherlands to continue his activities as a Nazi collaborator. [sub]© De Volkskrant, 2001[/sub]" So there you go. This poor excuse for a human being was able to live to the grand age of 80. A shitload older than many of his victims: Jews that ended up in concentration camps, or resistance members that ended up in front of a Nazi firing squad. People in the bloom of their lives, either hiding from a disgusting murder machine, or fighting for the resurrection of their country. He never served a day in prison, whereas he should have been shot (I always make an exception to my “no death penalty” reasoning for war criminals arrested right after WWII - sometimes justice HAS a social function, a function that helps restore a nation) after the war ended. So fuck you, mr. Pattist. Fuck you for vastly outliving your victims, people who would have actually _deserved_ a longer life. And while we’re at it, fuck the Spanish judicial system that prefers a bureaucratic procedure over a just and fair one - or at least did just that in 1979. What an utterly disgusting story. I just had to get this off my chest, and the Pit seemed the place to do it. Thanks for listening. ---
**Author:** ![JavaMaven1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@JavaMaven1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JavaMaven1)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auke-pattist-a-big-fat-posthumous-fuck-you/59742/2 "2001-03-28T01:16:13Z")
I’ve always believed that there is a special place in hell for these people. He may have outlived his victims, but for the rest of eternity, his tortures will be far beyond any measure. Thanks for the link to Simon Wiesenthal–he’s one of my heroes. A trip to The Museum of Tolerance, here in L.A., is a most sobering experience. ---
**Author:** ![theendisnear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a4c791/32.png) [@theendisnear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theendisnear)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auke-pattist-a-big-fat-posthumous-fuck-you/59742/3 "2001-03-28T03:08:40Z")
Times like this i really wish i believed the whole brimstone and hellfire thing. ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auke-pattist-a-big-fat-posthumous-fuck-you/59742/4 "2001-03-28T03:16:48Z")
Welcome to hell, Pattist… ---
**Author:** ![Booker57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Booker57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Booker57)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auke-pattist-a-big-fat-posthumous-fuck-you/59742/5 "2001-03-28T03:25:42Z")
My Mother always says “Only the good die young” Good rant, Coldfire. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auke-pattist-a-big-fat-posthumous-fuck-you/59742/6 "2001-03-28T03:26:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by theendisnear \* > \*\*Times like this i really wish i believed the whole brimstone and hellfire thing. \*\* That’s OK. I’ll believe for both of us. Burn, Baby, Burn! ---
**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auke-pattist-a-big-fat-posthumous-fuck-you/59742/7 "2001-03-28T06:09:22Z")
Things like this really make me want to believe in reincarnation. That way this maggot could come back as every single one of his victims. Here’s hoping. As for **Simon Wiesenthal** , his work is still being done. I read his book (IIRC) about overhearing some Austrian neo-nazis talking about what a hoax “The Diary of Anne Frank” was and how it was just another holocaust sympathy ploy. **Wiesenthal** laboriously tracked down the officer who arrested the Frank family and eventually even produced the arrest orders (IIRC). Too bad Mossad didn’t have the time for a side trip to Spain. It makes you wonder how much Spain has really progressed since Franco. NEVER FORGET! ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auke-pattist-a-big-fat-posthumous-fuck-you/59742/8 "2001-03-28T08:45:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zenster \* > \*\*NEVER FORGET! \*\* Precisely my point, Zen. In Spains defense: 1979 _was_ just a few years after the Franco regime was overthrown (1974?). And in 1995, they **did** seem willing to cooperate. Our then-foreign affairs minister Hans van Mierlo decided not to follow through. Since Pattist was no longer a Dutch citizen, a Dutch court could not have punished him for crimes of war. The maximum would have been “crimes against humanity” - and there was no other than anecdotal proof. Plus, you need REALLY big numbers to prove “crimes against humanity”. In other words: too little, too late, as sad as it is. If there’s a Hell, mr. Pattist sure’s in for a good ass roasting. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auke-pattist-a-big-fat-posthumous-fuck-you/59742/9 "2001-03-28T11:06:08Z")
Burn? nah, too god for him. As Dante would say, he’ll be imprisoned in a block of ice, living for eternity with the consequences of his actions. Scumbag. May a thousand imps riverdance on your testicles, and your surviving relatives have a freak yachting accident. ---
**Author:** ![Spiny\_Norman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Spiny\_Norman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiny_Norman)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2001, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/auke-pattist-a-big-fat-posthumous-fuck-you/59742/10 "2001-03-28T12:02:38Z")
As has been mentioned, one might hope that this quisling is now answering to a higher authority. If not, well, at least the asshole’s dead. And I for one can’t help feeling a little satisfaction in the fact that he lived for twentysome years knowing that extradition and trial was at least a possibility. Not a lot of justice, but then again there’s precious little of that in this world. Some people really work hard to betray everything of any value, don’t they ? Might someone pass water on his grave. S. Norman Coldie: Good rant, mate.