# Aus Fed govt to bring in drug/alcohol testing for welfare recipients.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aus-fed-govt-to-bring-in-drug-alcohol-testing-for-welfare-recipients/841199>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 3, 2019, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aus-fed-govt-to-bring-in-drug-alcohol-testing-for-welfare-recipients/841199 "2019-10-03T09:38:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aus-fed-govt-to-bring-in-drug-alcohol-testing-for-welfare-recipients/841199/41 "2019-10-04T20:13:36Z")

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> [@puddleglum](#):
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> Why is it okay for kids to be raised with drug addicts for parents? Drug addicts are neglectful, dangerous, unstable, and desperate for money. Some of them may even try to pimp their children out to fund their drug addiction.  
> Why would liberals be okay with children being raped for drug money instead of sending poor people to free rehab?

Not all drug addicts are equally bad. Some are able to suppress their habit on a temporary basis which enables them to be responsible in some ways. Examples include alcoholics are nonetheless able to get to work on time every day and hold down a job. People who “only” do drugs on the weekend, or after they get home for the day.

So yes, there are some so depraved as to pimp their kids… but not all of them are like that. Those that are able to act responsibly despite their addiction should be helped and encouraged - among other reasons, those are the folks with enough self-control to have a chance at driving their condition into remission long term. Which is something we would all like to see.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aus-fed-govt-to-bring-in-drug-alcohol-testing-for-welfare-recipients/841199/42 "2019-10-04T21:23:19Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> … Yeah, I just hope Drug Addicted Parent (why are you assuming it’s _always_ a mother involved in drugs…?) …
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> … once more _stop focusing on just mothers, ANY relative in the home could be involved in this sort of horror._ …

The mommy references came from this post:

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> And what do you tell the kids who won’t be getting fed because mommy failed a drug test?

You’re barking up the wrong tree by calling out **Shodan** for making it about “mommy”.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aus-fed-govt-to-bring-in-drug-alcohol-testing-for-welfare-recipients/841199/43 "2019-10-04T21:53:40Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> There are right wingers here in the states that favor such an idea, too. Any way to make life rough on the less fortunate makes life better for them, I guess.

Hey, you know how right wingers love them some zero-sum politics. Well drug supplies are no exception!

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