Author's who can't keep it up ('it' being 'book series')

The science has always been there. I don’t know why people keep insisting it was pure fantasy at first [well, the first story would qualify]. The prologue states from the outset that Pern was was settled by people who arrived on a spaceship.

Right, which is why I said it had a light bit of hinted at science backstory, that’s fine, that’s just how they ended up here.

The problem was that it tried to use science in ways that science isn’t meant to be used.

Telepathic dragons that can teleport, even through time? Sure. Genetically engineered telepathic dragons that can teleport through time… not so much.

A “Red Star” that appears every two-hundred years and rains hell and death upon them? Sure. An actual planet that follows no discernable or viable orbital mechanics, which somehow tosses its contents out at greater than escape velocity while staying in range of Pern for 50 years at a time(all the while not disturbing Pern’s orbit enough to affect the seasons or years)? I don’t think so.

Like I said, the more they tried to explain things, the less believable it was. It works well enough as a fantasy story, even one with a light science fiction backstory, but actually trying to tell it as science fiction ruined it.

The only Parker books I’ve read have been his Spenser series, but of the ~20 I’ve read so far, he’s done a pretty good job of keeping them varied and non-formulaic IMHO.

I got the impression from the early Pern books that she wanted to write fantasy, but that at the time the “fantasy” section of the bookstore was even more ghettoized than the “science fiction” section, so she tossed in a few offhand mentions of spaceships just to claim that it was the slightly more respected genre.

By the time of her death, though (heck, within a decade or so of the start of the series), fantasy was at least as respected a genre as science fiction, so I’m not sure what to make of the books moving more in that direction as time went on.

McCaffery had other books and series that were more in the science fiction genre. The Ship Who Sang and The Crystal Singer come to mind. They’re light SF, but still SF rather than fantasy.

I read a fair bit of McCaffery as a teenager and it was ALL light SF. Looking through her bibliography I don’t think she ever wrote any substantial amount of fantasy, really. Barring a comment from her own mouth, my assumption is she is always intended it for it to be SF from the get go. I haven’t read it since it was published in 1988, but I remember rather liking her settlement novel Dragonsdawn.

But then I don’t really care about the accuracy of the science in my SF. I mean not even a tiny bit :grinning:. I started reading the genre as a pre-teen, so plausibility has never been at the top of my ranking system. Bradbury and Ellison weren’t exactly writing technical manuals :wink:.

Very generally I’m not really a fan of most hard SF, which I find too often short changes the fiction for the science.

The first Pern pieces were written for the magazine market (and were published in Analog), so the bookstore environment didn’t matter as much - but at the time, the magazine market for SF was (as far as I know) healthier than the fantasy magazine market.

True that. Another example is Louise Penney. The first several Gamache books were really fine, but the last few not so fine and I will not even try the most recent one.

Someone mentioned that some series get increasingly backstory and less and less new story. Case in point: I have recently read all 14 or whatever of Martin Walker’s Bruno stories and his on-again, off-again love lives is getting old. Marry him off already. Probably his best bet is Florence whom he has hardly looked at but comes with a family he so desperately wants and her children already adore him.

Forth four published so far, with three more on the way ! Who reads all these ?

I’ve read more than I care to admit, but I join you in wondering as to who has read them all.

Last I’d heard, he was still justifying calling it a “trilogy”, because he hadn’t yet reached 3^3.

But, really, who is reading all of those? Anyone buying the 44th book had to have gone through 30-odd terrible ones already. And there’s only so fast one can read: They have to have aged out of the maturity level that would appreciate them. Well, OK, some folks never mature, but those folks don’t read much of anything.

Maybe people who find them entertaining even though they’re terrible? I haven’t read them (unless you count the first few that I read way back when), so I couldn’t tell you whether they’re bad-but-boring or bad-but-fun; but if it’s the latter, I have no trouble understanding why they still have an audience.

Might be on Kindle Unlimited, where many people will read whatever is free out of sequence.

To clarify, all of the Xanth books are bad. The first few are bad-but-fun. The “-but-fun” diminishes nearly monotonically through the series; there can’t be any nonnegligible amount left any more.

Xanth books accurately summarized

http://www.rinkworks.com/bookaminute/b/anthony.xanth.shtml

The quality also declined drastically. 4 and 5 are both bad books.

Right or wrong Malwarebytes does not like that site - blocked with a warning.

Sorry about that. It’s not giving me any problems - but I shall be cautious henceforth.

I don’t know why any security software would have a problem with that site–there are no ads on it, and it’s a very plain, basic site with not a lot going on behind the scenes.

Is it a HTTP vs. HTTPS issue? “The material at this site is Copyright © 1997-9” — maybe it’s just an old site without up-to-date security.

Chrome says “Something is severely wrong with the privacy of this site’s connection. Someone might be able to see the information you send or get through this site.”